OK, ZPG: Let's get a room. I'm paying.

This, on the other hand, is a very good point. That was pretty retarded of me.

So ignore my advice, fine by me.

Nah, I just needed to get that out of my system. Your advice is just fine, and will henceforth be taken into account.

She thinks it should be.

There’s enough content in the link I gave to be relevant here, and it supports what I said about it. Someone even quoted some of it earlier. You’re welcome to skip it.

I don’t know that there’s much I’m interested in debating here. My only point was that you can hold a view that newborn infants are not fully human and can be killed in some circumstances, and be celebrated by society. You want to debate whether it’s really possible for a person to be in that position? Or do you want to want to debate the principle itself? If it’s the latter good luck finding someone to debate it with. I mean, you’ve got ZPGZ, but that’s probably about it, here. Peter Singer probably does not post to this board.

We had a Great Debate about the paper that came out a few years ago, which owes a lot to Singer:

What’s on my mind is that you’ve been in this tree K.I.S.S.I.N.G with ZPG for six pages now, and still seem to be clinging on to the uber-improbable idea that there’s anything to her except twisted-inexcusable-fucked-upness.

You now have ZPG cooties, BTW.

Hey, you’re the one who decided to throw a tea party in a mosh pit, Fauntleroy.

Fuck me, that’s harsh.

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No, on the contrary. This thread has convinced me that she is, indeed, a flapdoodle. Or just a pretty regular troll. The two are, of course, not mutually exclusive. Not much more to see here, I think.

The only thing I’m clinging to is the position that I should be able to engage with a potential flapdoodle in a neutral manner, from a perspective of curiosity, without anyone losing their shit over it. It doesn’t necessarily mean that I’ll end up agreeing with the flapdoodle on anything under the sun.

I know. I’ve taken a shower, but it didn’t help. I’ll be taking another one later, in bleach.

There are plenty of victims on the anti-adoption boards that would agree with me. It’s common terminology to talk of seeing their real birth certificates as opposed to their altered slave certificates.

The answer very clearly before you is, it depends on the circumstances. The trauma women feel from forced pregnancy or others from forced parenthood effects individuals differently.

Hey, ZPG, a couple of things:

This thread will now turn into a pile-on, where people will explain to you, at length, repeatedly, in no uncertain terms, that you are a poopy-head. No force in the Verse can stop that, barring a thread closure (which I’ve inquired about by way of report, but no dice so far). Then again, you know that already. If you like that sort of thing, feel free to indulge. On the off chance that you don’t (fat chance, I know): Just get out of the thread. Then, everyone will get bored, and leave. It is entirely your call. There is no third option.

Another thing: No matter what world you live in, it’s pretty clear to me that, even by the rules of the your own world, you have some issues. You might want to look into that, for your own safety and well-being. Also, for the safety and well-being of your family and any potential children you might have.

Unless you’re just making shit up. In which case, do whatever.

Just some friendly advice.

Get your tongue out that her [del]ass[/del] [del]mouth[/del] ass, will ya?

Fuck. I’m going to be known as ZPG’s boyfriend forever after this, aren’t I?

You’ll find me in the bar a year from now. “Do they call me MB, the connoisseur of sequential threads? No. Do they call me MB, the master of the drive-by unnecessary dick joke? No. But you chat up *one *crazy troll…”

Martian this has been pointed out, but this is the wrong forum for exploring the worldview of a flapdoodle without it turning into a pile on. There’s also the fact that this is not the first Pit thread for this particular Pitee, who seems to make friends wherever she goes. I think your expectations were unrealistic at best. Yes, you are now damaged goods. :stuck_out_tongue:

Carry on.

Is this your first day on the internet? :slight_smile:

I am by no means taking Peter Singer’s side in anything, but I think it’s worth considering his context

In fairness to billfish678, you are actually crazier than Hitler.

His context leads to this outcome. Life unworthy of life - Wikipedia