OK, ZPG: Let's get a room. I'm paying.

Sometimes I call children things because it’s easier than he and she or it constructions… It’s just the way I speak. I sometimes refer to my nieces and nephews as my little monsters, but they know I love them. Actually, my teenage nephews enjoy being referred to as my brother’s fuck trophies.

Well, I guess the troll-or-not question has been settled. So this wasn’t a total waste of time. Basic troll it is, then.

Earlier on, you were at least funny. And more creative. What happened? Did you get lazy?

That’s right at the height of baby-killings season

“Troll” yes, “Basic” no. In my opinion, ZPG is going down as one of the greatest, despicable, trolls that ever trolled!

That’s pretty clearly not true, in the cases where the form that relief takes is removal of the child and placement in a loving family who don’t have the “right” DNA… :dubious:

How about a hug? Chest to chest but with no sexual thoughts on the mind. Purely platonic?

Hang on. If this baby business was, like, a known thing already, before this thread, how come it’s the handshaking that’s becoming a meme? How come no one adds “oh, yeah, and there’s the business with the baby killing”? That might have clued me in before I stepped into this pile of doodoo. Could we put up a warning about this somewhere now, for future reference?

Was the baby thing known? I didn’t know. I actually get a queasy now when I see her name. Wish I didn’t know, to be honest.

I take it you’re rehearsing your stand-up.

This is an extremely good question, one I have often asked myself. I’ve come up with two plausible, not necessarily mutually exclusive answers:

  1. Many people take hypothetical accusations of rapeyness more personally than they take hypothetical infanticide.

  2. It’s harder to get away with dead baby jokes in MPSIMS.

FWIW I’ve always thought the handshake thing was quite overblown, frequently torn out of context, and also dragged all over this board apropos of nothing. And it really is a poor representation of the level of dysfunction we’re talking about here.

Yeah, it was known. I remember it coming up several years ago and that’s kind of a hard thing to forget (what I didn’t know is that the primary motive for the infanticide was to compassionately save the baby from the horror of being adopted by a loving family.) But if you weren’t around then or missed those threads I could see how you would think this was merely much ado about handshakes.

She’s also okay with it, if my memory serves, so that men don’t have to pay child support. I know that she is okay with killing pregnant women for that reason.

Who knows? I’ve had to deal with some really fucked up humans in my life and it’s impossible to distinguish them from trolls.

She’s now on my ignore list.

Oh no. I knew there was a whole bucket of crazy in there. I just didn’t know it came with infanticide.

This is seriously fucked up. Commitment-to-the-nuthouse-level fucked up.

It’s easy to joke about the whole handshake thing.
It’s a little harder to crack wise about infanticide. Sorta sucks the fun right out of the room.

Plus, you don’t want to believe it. You don’t want to believe people can be THAT fucking horrible.

jsgoddess, not to bug you again, but do you have a cite for the killing of pregnant women? I have zero doubt at this point that such a cite exists. The troll is already on record upthread advising that the father should kill the child in the child support scenario. My search-fu isn’t scoring me any direct hits as of yet on the woman, though.

I was trying to ask the troll herself about this earlier, but I couldn’t get a straigh-up answer. However, I realize now that I didn’t ask a sufficiently straight-up question. And, since she’s still here, and not nearly as coy about these things as I for some reason imagined…

Hey! Trolly McTrollface! Yes, that means you, ZPG! Scenario time:

I’ve knocked up a woman and will be on the hook for child support. Killing only the child is off the table, for whatever reason. Let’s say the expectant mother is about to go into hiding, since she heard that you were in town, and after that I won’t be able to find her or the child. However, she won’t be doing it for the next couple of days. I ask your advice. Which of the following options should I choose?

  1. Pay the child support.
  2. Kill the pregnant woman.

And don’t go beating around the bush about the ideal society where blah blah should be allowed on this. Well, do that too, if you absolutely have to. But straight up answer first, please. It’s a very simple question.

It’s true. And if people made infanticide jokes, it would immediately derail the thread, and everyone who had never heard it before would be like, ''Wait, what?"

Yeah, I suppose it makes more sense to joke about handshakes. It annoys me when it comes up in threads for no other reason than to poke fun, but the alternative would be way worse, so I shall thank my lucky stars.

I’m terrible at perceiving when people are trolls vs. sincere. It’s not her beliefs that I find so implausible, it’s her apparent perception that everyone other than Dopers thinks this is all perfectly normal and agrees with her 100%, and that we are the weird ones. That’s the part that I really find hard to believe. That these beliefs have somehow been tested among the general population and there has been zero pushback seems not only implausible, but impossible.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13273352#post13273352

In some thread she talked about how she should have been stabbing people who offered her handshakes. She’s a troll.

Holy fucksticks. These views aren’t even logically consistent with one another.