Omar Daal

Who here is rooting for Omar Daal to pitch really well on Thursday, Sept. 21, but get very little run support from his team?

I know I am! Hey, how cool would it be to be a 20 game loser in MLB? I can see it now,

“Connor, you’ve been pitching well. Your slider is starting to break in more, and you’ve been developing a little more pop on your fastball. Unfortunately, the rest of the team sucks ass. So go out there and lose that 20th game!”

Do you know how hard it is to lose 20 games in a season? Lets look at others who have lost 20 games:

Brian Kingman (okay, not that impressive)
Cy Young (did it THREE times!)
Walter Johnson (twice)
Steve Carlton
Pud Galvin (10 straight seasons!!)

All but Kingman are Hall of Famers! How cool is that?!? You’ve got to be a pretty good pitcher for your team to keep you in week after week to lose that many games.

Go Omar!!

Go MPSIMS!

I absolutely am not.

I am a Phillies fan.

I never want the Phillies to lose.

That said, I believe Daal is going to miss this start on Thursday due to an injuried thigh. Read this article.

GO PHILLIES!!!

Poor Omar. One of the few ex-Dodgers who has not begun to flourish as soon as the Dodgers give up on him.

Goddamn Phillies. They had a good team and were on the brink. They needed to go out and get one more relief pitcher and a #2. They get Ashby who decides he “can’t handle the pressure of Philadlephia” and Mike “You Want Me To Throw That Thing” Jackson.

The season is almost over and Ashby is gone along with Schill. The entire infield is gone except for Rolen who would be a perennial All Star except for that damn concrete…excuse me, “astroturf” in the Vet.

Has there been any 4 sport city recently that has gone longer without a championship?

Chicago had the Bulls, New York had the Yanks and Rangers, LA had the Lakers, Detroit had the Red Wings…Boston hasn’t won anything , but they are a stretch as a 4 sport city (NEW ENGLAND Patriots)

Philly needs a championship soon or there will be riots.

Can we say hijack.

Sorry folks :slight_smile:

Yes, this season’s been a disaster. But, the real problem hasn’t been with pitching, it’s been the hitters. Dreadful, from 1-8 in the batting order. Oh yeah, 1-8, that looks like a record. Bah

And, actually, Rolen’s gone either next season sometime, or in 2002 when his contract’s up. There’s no way he’ll resign with the Phils without a new stadium in town, and that’s not going to happen by 2002.

And, Ashby was a waste. The deal when we got him from the Pads last fall was basically Adam Eaton for Ashby, and then Ashby was traded, in turn, for Bruce Chen. In other words, Eaton for Chen. Right now, I’d say that trade’s rather even, and it looks like Chen will make a great #2 or #3 pitcher in a year or two. So, all Ashby did was bide time between the trades. But, he didn’t do that. He stank up the joint, and stank it up badly.

As for Schill. He’ll be back. He’ll come back to Philly next summer, after the D-backs have their inevitable fire sale. I was sad to see him go, but at the time I was glad it was to Arizona, where it seemed like he had a legitimate chance to win this season. (For obvious reasons, I’m glad he didn’t go to the Braves, Mets, or Yankees.) It took a cameo with the Marlins for Dutch Daulton to win a World Series in '97, and at the time it seemed like the same fate was in store for Schill.

It’s been 17 years since the Sixers won in 1983. There have been some close calls (Flyers in '87 and '97), some closer than others (Phils in '93). But, it’s been hard. The lack of championships isn’t as painful as the utter crapiness of the teams.

Riots? Nah. We’re patient enough with our boos. :slight_smile:

And, someone will win within three years, I think. Most likely the Flyers, but I still hold out hope it’ll be the Phils. Sixers and Eagles, maybe.

I love my Philly sports.

Daal pitched tonight against the Mets. Six strong innings, six hits, one run against him, left with a 4-1 lead.

So, no loss tonight!!!

Of course, the bullpen did what it does best and blew the lead, but all’s well in the end as the Phighting Phils won, 5-4.

Daal got a no decision.

Next start: Tuesday in Chicago against the Cubs.

$5 that Sammy says sayonara at least twice.

Hmm, if I were a betting man I’d take that bet, Grendel69. A quick look through Daal’s stats show that tonight he had 9 groundballs to 6 flyballs.

Further review of his stats show that, before tonight, he faced 264 batters as a Phillie, and only allowed 7 homers. Over his career, he’s allowed 125 home runs in approx. 3,500 batters faced, in 130 starts, so less than one home run a game, average.

Also, he’s been pitching quite good over his last five starts. So, the question isn’t whether Sammy will hit two, but whether Rolen, Abreu, Burrell, etc. will hit one.

Say, how about Travis Lee finally going yard tonight?

If you look here, you’ll see that Daal is ranked 21st in the NL, and 40th in the Major Leagues for groundball/flyball ratio, with a 1.31 g/f ratio. Some guy named Greg Maddux is leading the NL with a 2.65 ratio.

Can you tell that I love my Phils? :slight_smile:

Go Phillies!!

Okay, okay, I’m not really a Phillies fan, I’m a Braves fan. Before you chuck that rotten egg my way, let me just say I’m a fan of any team that beats the Mets. :smiley: Seriously, some of my all-time favorite players played in Philly- Len Dykstra, for one.

I think it’s hilarious that Brian Kingman is rooting like crazy for Daal to not lose 20 games because he wants to keep the distinction of being the MLB’s last 20-game loser for a little while longer.

Yeah, did anyone else see the story that Brian Kingman’s friends call him pretending to be Omar Daal? “You are so pathetic, I will lose 21 just to prove how much more of a man I am than you!” Cracked me up.

Well, he won again last night. And he’s out for the season, finishing 4-19. I hope Brian Kingman slept well last night.

I think Phil Neikro lost 20 games. Also (possibly) a guy named Wilbur Wood. Where did you get your list from?

Did Kingman go to yesterday’s game? He was at the Mets game and interviewed there…

Wasn’t Carlton’s 20 L season right after that (72?73?) 27-9 career year with a TERRIBLE Philly team? (like 59-103?)

Got the list from ESPN.com

Well the guy over there who wrote this article agrees with me.

Wilbur Wood…Wow. I wish my memory was as good as this for important stuff.

Yeah, but he also won 40, twice!!

I just love it when you talk dirty to me:D I’m a diehard Braves fan.