Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)

It has been labeled an extremist hate group.

What the fuck is wrong with you that you are literally defending a hate group?

Actual experts call them book bans. The only reason to disagree is because you support their bigotry. You should be ashamed, seriously.

For a lot of kids, it unfortunately is the same thing.

There are people who can’t afford to buy books. There are people who don’t have time in their schedules to take their children to the public library [ETA: which in many areas has limited hours, and in some areas is hard for many families to get to.] There are people who don’t have internet access at home and/or who want their five year olds to read physical books, not only float around online.

The first three of those four maybe shouldn’t be so, but they are.

That is a somewhat kinder reading. But why, if she’s worried about it, hasn’t she then discussed it at home?

In other words… banning.

Please make up your mind.

Not that there isn’t a long history of ‘I want to teach my children about that at home!’ . . . which, of course, translates as ‘I don’t want my children to ever learn about that!’
That being, almost exclusively related to matters that touch on, sexuality.

And yet they seem really concerned about a bill that would make that illegal.

Illinois just enacted another egregious bill, forcing compliance with the threat of defunding school libraries that dare defy the law. ILHB2789 has now been signed by Governor Pritzker with implementation set for January 2024. Now renamed as Public Act 103-0100 (Illinois General Assembly - Full Text of Public Act 103-0100), this law will prohibit the practice of banning specific books or resources because of partisan or doctrinal disapproval. The act goes on to state “libraries and library governing bodies should not use rating systems to inhibit a minor’s access to materials”.

And if the law goes through, they consider it to be an

inadvertent guarantee that we can place Christian books, Bibles, patriotic books, etc. in public school libraries. What an irony for a bill that has full intentions of flooding school libraries with inappropriate books.

The irony here is that those in favor of letting one extremist parent have absolute veto power over what books everyone else’s kids have access to at school, is that those same people would shit bricks and totally lose it if another parent tried to make decisions for their child. Also, I’m not even sure that the people filing objections to books under these laws even have kids, or have kids at the school they are targeting. I saw a stat that one woman was responsible for the majority of book challenges in Florida. The underlying motivation here is that right wing extremists think that schools are making kids liberal, rather than the reality they are growing up in, so they think banning access to books that feature lgbtq characters, or books that have anything to do with racism, or the holocaust, or any accurate history, will stop this indoctrination, when the reality is that they just want kids to become reactionary bigots like them. In other words, indoctrination. That’s what it is about. The rest of the “debate” is just a back and forth about the meaning of the word “ban”.

I believe that tofor’s position seems to be that the book can be obtained elewhere, so it is not literally being banned. MfL is not (yet) advocating 451°F for it.

Sendak is a celebrated author whose books have been in the hands of children for more than half a century. Suddenly finding his work objectionable is more offensive (to me) than a few penis-shaped images in their pages.

Would you like a fainting couch in case you hear that everyone is naked under their clothes?

Would you like to make sure that indecent table legs are properly covered, lest children see them?

Do you think fiddles were created by Satan to induce people to commit the sin of dancing?

In short, are you a throwback to the 1800’s?

In December 2021, the Wake County, North Carolina chapter filed a criminal complaint against the Wake County Public School System over the books Lawn Boy, Gender Queer: a Memoir, and George.

According to WFTS-TV, as of December 2021, “several schools” had removed books from shelves due to the efforts of various Moms for Liberty chapters

In 2023, the Miami-Dade chapter of Moms for Liberty claimed credit for the removal of The Hill We Climb from a school library; the book was an adaptation of the poem of the same name by poet Amanda Gorman.[50] The activist whose complaint prompted the removal of the poetry also has links to the Proud Boys

That’s how parenting works. Your child comes home from school and you say “how was your day?” and they say “I saw something funny in a book.” And then you tackle this nothing burger like a parent.

That’s not how libraries work.

I’m gonna hijack the school library thread (My mother told the librarians I could borrow anything I wanted and she would decide what was and was not appropriate.) with a People of Walmart story:

Two supposedly grown ass men got into a food fight in the grocery section of the Bullhead City Walmart.

I worked in retail for years. Someone working in retail under such awful conditions for such little pay should not have to deal with that bullshit.

So, libraries force children to take home books?

Huh, I did not know that.

Jesus fucking wept.
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He’s probably at the slitting his own fucking wrists stage by now.

A fictional account of the American Civil War used with fifth-graders was deemed unsuitable because of its depictions of “out of marriage families between white men and black women”

I think it’s indeed unsuitable to describe rape in that fashion. But I’m afraid that I doubt that’s what they meant.

(Yes, I know it wasn’t always rape. But a lot of the time it certainly was.)

What sort of fool brings an onion to a glass jar fight?

Grandpa Simpson in 1930?

Aha! The fight started over some whippersnapper trying to tie a purple onion to their belt.

“I’m just a girl who cain’t say no” literally.

Glass Onion: A Knives Out Walmart Mystery