On vitriol and the state of America

Who, among the evangelical left, is preventing someone from moving?

This actually made me laugh out loud.

Many of them did just that and formed thriving communities. Indeed, blacks living in the North enjoy a higher standard of living to this day. They also are more likely to have black government representatives, which is not something I care about but you may like. It’s almost like history is poorly taught in public schools, though I know I picked this up there.

Many here are suggesting that moving is beneath the dignity of minorities and that they should stay and advocate for their minority positions. Perhaps I am misunderstanding.

Hear, hear. These are people who want all the freedom in the world but can’t stand the thought that someone they don’t like has freedom also and would rather we all suffer if they can’t get their way. There are not good people on both sides.

If their point of view is that I should die, I’m going to interpret their point of view as a death threat. Pretending that wishing to kill an entire class of people is just a difference of opinion is suicidal. And criticizing someone who responds with ‘vitriol’ to a death threat for spreading too much hatred by calling out the death threat while defending the person making death threats is absurdly backwards.

There’s basically nobody in the US that advocates taking proactive measures to kill other groups. There are some secessionist and ethnic nationalist types who would rather live separately, but let’s be real.

There are plenty. And they have acted.

Are you kidding?

Not even the fringe groups support murder. Check your sources.

Republicans are taking proactive measures to make it safe to kill people. This one has been around for a while: Gay panic defense - Wikipedia , allowing someone to dodge murder charges because they were perturbed at discovering that someone was LGBT, and this is what they’re currently pushing How the ‘Religious Freedom Division’ Threatens LGBT Health—and Science | WIRED to protect healthcare providers who refuse to provide healthcare to people. I’m sure you’ve got some Libertarian-style ‘paramedics letting someone bleed out doesn’t count as killing them’ claim, but I don’t accept that weird set of definitions. Anyone wearing a Swastika or other Neo Nazi regalia is explicitly supporting genocide. Anyone wearing a Confederate flag is explicitly supporting slavery.

So I’ll need a cite for your claim that none of these things are happening.

none of those things are proactive measures to kill people. I don’t dispute that people wear Nazi symbols for example.

Perhaps you can cite where these groups advocate for murder.

Do you know what a Nazi is?

Yes I’m so knowledgeable I can tell the difference between modern Nazis and others.

This makes me think of another thing; today’s Progressives / Left have the attitude that bigotry/racism are THE cardinal sin- it’s ok to do a lot of other stuff, but woe be unto you if you are a racist and/or bigot in any way.

Not everyone prioritizes this in the same way- they may not be for bigotry or racism, but they may feel that it’s small potatoes vs. ending abortion, for example.

That doesn’t make them bigots or racists because they think that way- it just means that they feel like they have bigger fish to fry.

Certainly, walking and chewing gum at the same time can be a challenge.

What is your definition of a modern Nazi?

Neither did the NSDAP, until Wannsee.

This “answer” suggests that if you do not wish to live in a statist or otherwise non-libertarian society, you should just move to a good libertarian nation. (Not that i believe that your answer was serious or that you are participating in this discussion with any serious intent.

Telling people to move to places where they will not be oppressed when no such places exist simply to avoid political disruption is a dumb idea.

I don’t think it can be denied that through Gerrymandering, voter suppression and the state electoral College one party in particular doesn’t want a public communal voice to be heard. My hope is it will be regardless.