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Oh, forgot to add and missed the edit window - really don’t like tattoos at all. I suspect it’s a generational thing now. It just screams “YOUNG ENOUGH TO BE YOUR SON!” at me these days, which is just too squicky. I could overlook them for the right person, but really, not my thing.

It is possible to not use expletives and still be against the rules in IMHO.

Agreed, the dog is AWESOME!

You are very physically attractive, but what’s with the weird tan in some of your photos? Yuck! It looks as if you rubbed down with stove black or something. It looks strangely unnatural.

I think young women will like your looks very much, but remember, less is more. If I were you, I’d switch out a TON of those photos of yourself for a few more of that adorable dog.

Read the thread. It’s only been brought up (and explained) half a dozen times.

I am trying to delete this post, but can’t figure out how to do it.

You can’t. All you can do is edit out the text, like you did.

Joe

I’m wondering if you’ve ever seen a wheelchair bodybuilder who’s injury was too high up to have whole above the waist muscle definition. The middle man in the one picture, who you say has never trained, reminds me of a friend who is in a wheelchair and his midsection has the same fallen, pooled look because he can’t move anything that low.

Say if someone could only move their arms could they compete with just their super muscular arms and neck? Are there different divisions?

No, I think it looks thoroughly obnoxious.

Disingenuous means being insincere, and acting like you don’t really get it. Exactly like the example given above of girls posting photos of themselves with captions saying “OMG I’m so ugly”. This is disingenuous because if they truly believed that, they wouldn’t post a bunch of pictures of themselves. You are coming across the same way to me. You say you’re not making that face on purpose, yet you take picture after picture of yourself making that face, and blame it on “camera willies”. The thing is, if you really felt that it was an unattractive face, you would stop taking pictures of yourself making it, and would certainly not post said pictures online!

As has been mentioned, not everyone (in fact, nobody over 15 that I have ever encountered other than you) takes excessive, gratuitous pictures of themselves in unremarkable situations. The fact that you insist on doing so comes across as vain and arrogant. Your wide-eyed, “What? Why WOULDN’T modest, delightful me take a billion nearly-identical pictures of myself and post them for the world to see?” comes across as disingenuous.

Are you sure he didn’t wallow in it?

Frankly, the fact that you continue to refer to that middle guy as “obese” and “morbidly obese,” which he clearly is not, just shows how wacked your perceptions are.

Muscular definition really comes from diet, not exercise. As Jamie has said in his comments on that particular photo, even a quadriplegic could be ripped if he dieted properly. The guy in the middle looks the way he does because he has not been following a proper diet regimen, not because he is unable to work the muscles of the stomach.

I believe you. I recently started lifting weights (nothing extreme, just basic dumbbell stuff) and I feel amazing. Being strong is good; it does something to you psychologically. I can completely understand how something like that, at a time where you’re feeling really low levels of motivation and self-confidence, could change your life. And I wouldn’t blame you for being attached to it. Anyway I have respect for anyone who makes their health a priority. It’s an ongoing battle for me and when people are genuinely successful at it, I’m impressed.

Of course, you realize this means I’m a nerd too, right?

I was really asking generally about body building competitions for different abilities not about the specific man. While muscle definition may come from dieting actual muscles come from exercising so no amount of dieting will make atrophied muscles look like a body builder’s.

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?!Seriously?! I think you need to go back and check what “obese” and “morbidly obese” mean as terms before you assert how “wacked” my perceptions are.

I do know what they mean. From wikipedia: “Obesity is a medical condition in which excess body fat has accumulated to the extent that it may have an adverse effect on health, leading to reduced life expectancy and/or increased health problems.”

Without knowing his weight or height, I think that guy looks like he’s a little overweight, but not obese and certainly not morbidly obese. In order to be classified as morbidly obese, a 5’10" male would need to weigh 320 lbs which yields a BMI of 45.9. He is no where close to that weight. A BMI of 30 is the lower parameter for obese (class I, with morbidly obese being a subcategory of class III) and someone 5’10" would need to weigh 210. That’s getting a little closer, but BMI also doesn’t take into consideration weight from muscle vs. fat and while this guy still has a little padding to lose, he looks pretty solid underneath. I agree with you, by the way, that he doesn’t appear to be a serious competitor and should have trained more before entering the competition.

Bodybuilding is more of a lifestyle than anything else. I don’t spend anymore time in the gym than any typical committed gym-goer; which would be similar to the time anyone would spend on any various hobby. I incorporate my diet/food choices into my everyday life, I don’t let it get in the way of what I want to do. Bodybuilding (successful) is based on learning, developing and embracing smart, clean and healthy eating habits; good sleeping habits and stress management.

In my eleven years as a paraplegic, I have known (or read about) too many people with spinal-cord injuries who developed some sort of substance abuse problem some time after their injury. On top of the issue of street drugs, SCI-patients deal with chronic medical issues that require strong narcotics medications; and doctors liberally prescribe these drugs as if there were no way a patient may actually become addicted. Bodybuilding has kept me living clean, and it helped pull me up when I was at my worst (or at least working out did-I wasn’t competing yet then).

As far as if I would expect the same or similar (to myself, fitness-wise) in someone I dated, I think you may have missed it but I have written a fair bit here about dating and being in love with a heroin addict. I wouldn’t consider a heroin addict to be “in step” with the bodybuilding lifestyle. So no, that is irrelevant to me. I do this for myself and the physical and (very real) mental benefits I reap from it. I don’t judge others for their respective levels’ of fitness.

I actually have never dated or been involved with a woman/girl who was really committed to fitness (in the sense that it was an overriding priority in their lives).

The dog in the wheelchair is awesome. The shirt is pretty funny but also kind of douchey.

Douchey? Really? I thought it was great when I had it made and I still get a kick out of wearing it in public. And many do tend to automatically assume that if a guy is in a wheelchair, then there probably isn’t much going on “down there”. So I made a joke out of it.

I laughed, but once you finish college any explicit or thinly veiled reference to your penis on a T-shirt is douchey.

Even given the circumstances?