Yeah, I’m not saying it is good or bad. Just different.
There are many examples of the audience-writer feedback loop both helping and hurting a show in finding its core as well as an audience.
Not just an Indiana thing. As far as I know, people are doing this everywhere. At least, I have friends here in MI, Colorado, and California, and I’m pretty sure this usage isn’t uncommon to any of them.
Heck, I’ve seen T-shirts declaring “I’m from <insert start of place name here>tucky.”
Yeah, I grew up in Vancouver, Washington, which frequently called Vantucky by people in Portland, Oregon (which amuses me on differences of perception since when I was growing up Portland seemed like such a dirty unfriendly place to me, but I was mostly aware of the textile shops my mom worked in in industrial downtown before it gentrified).
We watched thru ep 11 last night, and I’m liking Piper and her fiance less and less - coupla whiny, spoiled brats.
Is that the only one you noticed? I thought that was what it was all about. Stereotypical blacks, hispanic, white-bread, Christian, trans and lesbians, even the prison guards and administration are all stereotypes. I thought that was part of the humor.
I enjoy the show very much. I have a strange girl-crush on Laverne Cox.
I truthfully cannot understand how anyone could not like this show. I loved the first episode, and the more I watched, the more I liked it. It’s one of my favorite shows ever at this point. I know people have differing opinions, and of course that’s fine. But I just cannot understand how you could not like this show!
Me too! I am loving Laverne Cox, what an awesome character!
I thought it was funny when I looked up the name of the M2F transsexual and saw that.
I started a new thread on this show because I didn’t realize it was being covered already but I am a hugely impressed.
I wanted to say they created a whole new subgenre but I realize they didn’t. Northern Exposure was very similar in many ways. They are both fish out of water stories that use their unusual settings to focus on interesting characters and make even mundane topics fascinating. If you liked Northern Exposure as much as many of us do, you will probably like Orange is the New Black as well.
Still, it is a rare thing to have such a character driven dramedy that draws you in so closely. I haven’t seen that done this well in a couple of decades and it may even top Northern Exposure in that regard and I would have thought that was heresy until I witnessed it myself.
I’m watching episode 10 right now, and I love this show (though I can’t watch more than 2-3 episodes at a time).
That doesn’t bother me nearly as much as all the close contact the male guards have with the women; is that really normal for US prisons? :eek: I mean episode 9 had…
…Piper showering in while chained to a wall in front of a male guard.
It seems like there’s a lot of confusion between the state and federal systems. I can see using “DOC” instead of “FPB” for legal reasons, but then there’s things like inmates getting parole or being jailed for what appear to be state crimes. Or is Litchfield supposed to be a state prison that housing federal inmates under contract (or vice versa)? Does that even happen anymore?
Unlike Voyager the writers on this show have a consistent idea of what who Red is and what her motivations are.
Me too. And they cast an actual transwoman to play her.
I have not watched the show beyond the first episode, but I have listened to the audiobook it is based on (which I enjoyed and recommend).
My impression from what I’ve seen and what I’ve read here is that the TV show takes takes a LOT of liberties in playing up the prison sex (there’s essentially none in the book), violence (there’s essentially none in the book), etc…as far as the male guards
I think some who were ‘handsy’ during patdowns were as bad is it got for her - certainly none ever watched her shower, and she never showered while ‘chained to’ anything, for that matter!
Yeah I don’t know shit about shit but the male characters in this show and the female prison owner just take me out of the feeling of real life for this show. They all seem way too caricature-like to me.
I mean maybe every single guard and non-inmate staff member in the prison is an over-the-top asshole, slightly-to-mostly incompetent and easily fooled…but I’m guessing there’s a lot of re-writing of real characters and skewed invention going on there.
I like the show, don’t get me wrong. But the portrayal of the non-inmates makes me think it’s just “pretty good” and not anywhere near “outstanding.”
Heh. Funny, when you’re from South Carolina that sort of thing just never comes up.
In Tennesse either or at least not in the parts I’m in. for Mississippi and Arkansas, Kentucky might be seen as a step up.
I agree. Pornstache is an evil caricature for sure. I like the show but it’s just too ridiculous at some points. And it’s almost nothing like the book, which I think might not have been completely accurate either (I can’t remember because I read it years ago, but it might have said some details were changed to protect privacy, etc). And in the book, Piper ran into her ex-girlfriend once or a few times and spoke to her briefly once IIRC.
Also, everyone including the warden or whoever that lesbian-obsessed guy is, is a little too starstruck by Piper and her college education and full mouth of teeth. Isn’t it a minimum security federal prison? It’s not Alcatraz.
I think it’s really great. And it seems pretty realistic to me as far as the characters go. Probably too much lesbianism and probably lax on the discipline, but I don’t know about women’s prisons.
One thing I don’t get is why it’s marketed as a comedy. I think Pornstache is the only really comedic character, but, really there’s nothing funny about peddling drugs for blowjobs and murder.
Also, I don’t get why some people about think the nudity was over-the-top gratuitous, seemed really mild to me.
It is a dark comedy. Those aren’t usually knee-slapper funny but instead humorous in a deeper and more sinister way. I think it is hysterical. Other dark comedies include Harold an Maude, Heathers and some of Pulp Fiction. Did you think those were funny? If not, dark comedy may just not be your thing.
Life is a dark comedy. . . so, I think it’s realistic.
We just finished the season last night on Netflix and we liked it. If the show creator’s intentions were for us to originally like and sympathize with Piper, then start to dislike her as the show went on, they did a good job. And I mean that non-sarcastically. She started out as a sympathetic character, but they did add depth to it where she’s kind of shallow and self-centered. But despite that, you’re still pulling for her with her fight at the end.
I saw this link last week or so and it’s pretty good (I’d say 15 and 23 are lame), there are a couple interesting facts in there:
Yeah, I like dark comedy. Pulp Fiction, sure, Bad Santa, hilarious. But, for me, I guess Orange just isn’t over-the-top enough to be darkly funny. It’s just too realistic. There are wacky crazy people doing horrible things in everyday life. I would think, especially in prison. Anyway, to me it fails as a dark comedy, good thing it works as a lightly heavy drama.