Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread

Tell me you’re not discussing Roy’s trouser-titan.

Now that we’ve got 50 full pages and 2500 responses on this thread, I have a question.

Is this still Book 5? I haven’t been keeping track. Is it time to open a new thread yet?

Roy’s big bad can fly, has a touch attack and DR 15. Even if he catches Xykon, all he’ll do is stop him using somatic components.

Unless I am misremembering (and I am not), Roy beat Xykon the first time they met by literally knocking his head off with his bare hands and throwing his body and head into a gate. That sure looked like grappling to me.

The touch attack (being negative-energy-based) is nullified by a Death Ward spell, of which Durkon is researching a Mass version, and even if that doesn’t work, he’s still sure to cast the individual version on Roy. And you can also muffle a spellcaster in a grapple to prevent verbal components. Now, cutting off Xykon’s access to verbal and somatic components probably won’t completely nullify him, but it’ll cut down his options considerably.

And remember that Roy’s a part of a party. He doesn’t actually need to destroy Xykon personally; if he can nullify him while Durkon and Vaarsuvius sling Heals and Disintegrates, that’ll still work.

JFTR, it is still Book 5.

Book One ran for 120 strips. Books Two, Three, and Four ran for about 180 strips apiece. We’re currently about 130 strips into Book Five.

Hey! I get to post the new comic link for once.

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0804.html

OK, now I’m torn between taking that last speech bubble literally, or taking the “lie” in the comic’s title as an indication that she’s not right behind him. Would it be more interesting for the story for Sabine to betray Nale, or the Arch-Fiends?

I don’t know – the thing we know without a doubt about Sabine is that she is genuinely in love with Nale. If it comes down to it, I could absolutely believe that she would side with him rather than the arch-fiends.

I think there’s going to be a tragedy where Sabine has to betray Nale despite the fact that she loves him. Moving past the obvious parallel of Therkla and Elan, there’s the other parallel of Xykon and Redcloak. They’re working together to reach the same goal but they have completely different plans for what they want when they arrive at the goal.

Regardless, things aren’t going to turn out well for Nale.

ETA: Where the bloody effin’ hell is Durkon??

Really? She’s lust incarnate. She’ll betray them all if it profits her.

I still think a Durkon and Hilgya reveal is possible.

Although there is one other possibility who might be Durkon’s counterpart: what if Malack is secretly part of the Linear Guild?

Even if Malack were willing to go along (unlikely), there’s no way on any plane that Nale would ever accept working with one of his dad’s old party-mates.

It’s devious, treacherous, and convoluted - Nale would love it.

Wow, I was getting pretty spoiled by the recent update cycle. Berlew was cranking! Now we’re 12 days since the last one. Should be soon, right? right?!

By the way, I figured out where Durkon is. He’s been arrested by the city guard, because his visa expired 42 strips ago.

You think so? The only way I can read the last line (considering it’s proximity to her conversation with the imp) is either she intends to stick with Nale, or that she’s trying to convince herself she will.

Expecting fidelity would be absurd, of course, but either way she seems to genuinely care about him. If she does betray him, it won’t be an ‘I AM a monster, after all,’ it’ll be ‘I’m sorry . . . I have to . . . I’m sorry . . .’


Either way, I hope it’s not too preachy. Got enough of that with the Miko resolution.

Didn’t Nale kill his kids or something?

Yes, three of his children as mentioned in the middle right panel.