All the ones that were working for Xykon at the time did (except for Redcloak). But that wasn’t the first time Xykon wiped out all of his followers. Presumedly the green goblins we’re seeing in the crowd are those who’ve joined Team Evil in recent months.
I’m also wondering if we’re interpreting Redcloak’s statement correctly. I don’t think he’s trying to convince himself (and his brother’s memory) that things will work out well someday. I think he’s reminding himself of everything he did for “The Plan” because as far as he’s concerned today’s the day it all comes together. (Similar to his “This one’s for you, Mom” in 422.) The goblins now have a city to call their own.
Which is going to be a major problem in the near future. Because as far as Xykon’s concerned they’re all his goblins and he regards Azure City as a temporary bivouac. As soon as the phylactery is found, Xykon will order Redcloak to destroy his new goblin homeland and get everybody back on the road. Hard to see how the big showdown between Xykon and Redcloak can be avoided.
I don’t see it. For the reasons I mentioned in my previous post. This look like an official announcement not an administrative matter.
I’m guessing Redloak will be in the middle of proclaiming the founding of Goblinopolis when Xykon will appear.
“Goblin homeland? Who gave you minions permission to have a homeland?”
(blows up city)
“I found my phylactery. We’re moving out. Everyone who isn’t marching in ten minutes gets killed.”
The green-skins, I assume, are recent immigrants. A city for goblins and populated by goblins has to be a big draw to goblins all over the world. What I find especially interesting is that there’s one goblin in the audience who appears to be half-hob.
Not necessarily. Xykon needed an army in order to conquer Azure City, and he only cared about that because of the gate. To go to a gate in the middle of a desert,
why would he bother taking the army? He’ll just take a few of his trusted lieutenants, and leave the rest behind.
Considering that the purple star is above all the others, I assume so. Clerics seem to play a major role in goblinoid society, so it stands to reason that their nation would be at least somewhat theocratic.
So I had this discussion with my nine-year-old yesterday:
“Redcloak: Evil or not?”
It’s true that he’s doing evil things like making war and such. But is it a just war due to the persecution his people have seen at the hands of the paladins and other human and demi-human races? We’ve seen that, unlike Xykon, he’s not needlessly cruel in his refusal to toss the human captives into the snarl, as well.
It’s an interesting point of view that Redcloak could be one of the heros in the story and still be considered an antagonist for the Order of the Stick.
IMO, a possible Good reaction to persecution would be to take up arms and end it - then go home. Taking up arms to end persecution, then while you’re at it and seeing as you already got arms and all why not go on a world conquest, isn’t Good by any stretch of the word.
That last sentence tests my punctuation skills.
What I guess I’m saying is that, while Azure City might have reaped its very own whirlwind, the people around Girard’s gate and whatnot who are going to get crushed by Xykon any day now, never oppressed the gobbos.
Besides, there’s that whole slavery and torture thing. That oughta count for something, innit ?
The goblin warlord who was betrayed and murdered and turned into the Dark One had purple skin. Red Cloak is definitely evil, but he was pushed in that direction by the slaughtering of his people.
