Order of the Stick - Book 5 Discussion Thread

Psionic Disintegrate is 11PP, plus 19 for another wormhole (what’s the psionic wormhole spell called, actually?), puts her at closer to 120 or so.

Although, all that assumes she’s level 20. If she’s level 17 she only has one or two more spells worth of PP left.

Does D&D have any penalties for just being tired? Roy has already fought an army, a sand golem, and the Linear Guild a couple of times. Or do healing potions take care of that run down feeling too?

Not really. There are two conditions that your character can get (Fatigued and Exhausted) which give you maluses to physical attributes ; however merely fighting won’t make you either. Pretty much you’re good to go until you’ve either caught a spell, trap, effect, ability… that causes these status effects ; or I believe sleep deprivation also does it.
Fighting all day without breaking a sweat is just what heroes do :slight_smile:

(as an aside, I started my PnP roleplaying career with Rolemaster, a game which tried to implement a combat fatigue system. It was annoying as hell to count exactly how many rounds of combat you’d done that day… and the thresholds were high enough that you never ever got tired anyway :rolleyes:)

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Since Miron seems to be an arcane caster, that’s probably just a regular ol’ Shield spell, providing +4 AC.
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Or he could have an item that casts it. Or he could be a mystic theurge. Or he could have splashed some Cleric levels. Or…

But yeah, you’re probably right :slight_smile:

I wonder if Elan’s plan is to convince his father that he’s the romantic hero and to let Roy be the action hero? Somehow, I doubt he’s thought that all the way through as isn’t it usually the case that the latter gives his life for the former near the end of the story?

Elan’s plan required Durkon’s help, for reasons that are not yet clear.

Hmm, TowelFace just cast Greater Dispel Magic. I wonder if Tarquin will direct him to do the same to Durkon in a pinch. Then I guess we’ll see if that staff still holds the sunlight abjuration.

Can True Form reverse Baleful Polymorph? An instant allosaur could be handy.

I’m probably reading too far into this, but it seems to me that protagonists can’t be changed midstream in a classically constructed work of fiction. So Tarquin is tilting at windmills: if Roy is the hero, then Roy is the hero. Also, I’m wondering if Elan’s secret plan involves comedy. With Tarquin cast in the less-than-dignified role of straight man. Could a cleric provide a laugh track?

I was wondering the same: what would revert the allosaur to an allosaur? Is it a remove-enchantment type thing? Or is the allosaur now truly a lizard, and no more than that?

ETA: M4M I love your speculation re protagonists.

Baleful Polymorph is a “Permanent” effect (as opposed to an “Instantaneous” effect), which means that it is only the magic holding the allosaur in that form. Hit it with a Dispel Magic or Break Enchantment and the spell keeping the allosaur as a lizard ends.

Elan’s plan required Dukon’s help when he was still alive. I wonder if Durkon will still be able to help now that his spell set has changed a bit. Durkon’s not casting Thor’s Might anytime soon.

Elan had a plan to defeat Tarquin. It required Durkon’s help. The details of the plan were not revealed to the audience. Elan has a need to defeat Tarquin, something very Durkon-like to hand, the details of the plan still have not been revealed and the end of the book is rapidly approaching. If Elan doesn’t use the plan successfully right here and now, I’ll eat one of your hats.

One speculation I’ve heard is that he’ll get himself killed on purpose, with with the prior agreement with Durkon (who has enough diamond dust to Resurrect one person left) that he’ll only accept being raised by him (since the dead can tell who is trying to raise them). So if Tarquin kills off the OOTS, Elan’s gone permanently; if he spares the OOTS Elan can come back.
Tarquin: "Surely you wouldn’t leave Elan dead if I only killed Roy…"

Durkon: “Vampire. Lawful Evil. And that was the agreement.”

Tarquin: “…I see.”

True enough. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that I think Elan’s plan is going to fail because Durkon’s a vampire now. I’m just wondering if Elan is going to have to change the plan on the fly to compensate for vamp Durkon. Or if Rich will milk the situation for comedy, as Elan scrambles to fix the plan and keeps trying to exploit “old” Durkon’s abilities.

ETA: I guess my original post was really suggesting that Elan’s plan might fail because of Durkon being a vampire now, but on reflection, I agree that that seems very unlikely.

I thought it was you can tell the alignment of the one raising you, not the specific person.

Hence the pyramid mummies refusing to be rezzed by Durkon who was (at the time) the same alignment as Soon’s Lawful Good paladins.

You can tell both, but the name “Durkon Thundershield” wouldn’t mean anything to a Draketooth, so all they really had to go on was alignment.

I love the “only Durkon can rez Elan” idea. They don’t even have to do it, just threaten to.

Well, well, well. Look who hasn’t read Game of Thrones!

Every caster is, by definition, a warlord.

Just not usually a Chief Warlord.

Pretty sure it doesn’t involve persuading Targuin to let him be anything other than the sole hero. When Elan formulated that plan, he didn’t know that was a motivating issue for Tarquin.

I saw what you did, there.