Where, oh WHERE did you come up with this bullshit, Kanicbird? Because in nine years of Catholic school, and four years in a Catholic college, I never, EVER heard anything like this. Ever.
And would the reverse be true-if the husband had multiple partners, but used a condom? (To avoid diseases, as well. You do realize that anothe reason that contraceptives are used is to prevent disease, NOT just pregnancy, right?)
I think I speak for us all when I ask- Do you still have the uniform?
No, because I wore the skirts or jumpers when I was 11. In 7th and 8th grades, I just wore navy slacks and white or light blue shirts. Sorry.
(Plus the skirts and jumpers were butt-ugly. The material was cheap, the plaid was fug, and they were designed for little kids.)
Even in His curses He is merciful? That really would not be comforting to any son or father that was blown to bits or crushed by order of the same god. “Destroyed” is not a temporary state. One reason why I consider a deistic god to be a better option is that the bible god does not care about cutting short the life of many on the way to teach a “merciful” lesson even to a third party.
Just ask the sons and daughters of Job.
Wind? I said “spirit.” You’re the one who said wind was always the same thing as spirit.
Either way… I don’t think we’re going to have a meaningful conversation. I resent the way you interpret other religions’ documents to suit your own needs, and I resent your blithe assurance that of course you’re right because you’re divinely inspired and anyone else who says they’re divinely inspired but doesn’t agree with you has actually been deceived by demons or Satan himself.
I sincerely hope these “throw away” children in whose presence you’ve been lately have not been left in your care for extended periods of time. I don’t think it’s healthy for you or them.
Bear with me and I think you may see that this is scripturally provable and explains the world around us much better then science and medical science does, and shows the inadequacy of both science and medicine (just as God says btw). Please put aside your would view and try to understand this as a new world/universe.
The theory is that there are 4 levels of this fallen world. Some things/people span multiple, some only some or one. The top level is the closest to God, God provides most of our needs, the bottom one is the deepest one that has most of the control under Satan, were humans are enslaved and forced to do what God was willing to provide. Above the 4 levels is the Kingdom of God (a 5th level), below the 4 is Sheol (level 6), below that hell (l7). Each level is physically ‘lower’ then the other, but they intersect and interact, though there are some things and people in one level that can never interact with another.
People today exist in these levels, some people who live in the upper life appear greatly blessed, have advantages way beyond what ‘normal people do’, then there are people who struggle and can never get ahead, and some who nothing works for them, become homeless, or work in a evil/underground level, drug dealing, etc. My contention is that there is nothing physically ‘wrong’ with the person, just they are in a level that they just can’t get ahead, and in their frustration some damage themselves, or people trying to help using medical science damage these people.
When this first was revealed was in 2 levels, which is the divided kingdom of Judah/Israel. If you look at Samuel and Kings, it is written in a enjoyable writing style, very human friendly, this is a upper level. God tests King David to conduct a census - this being a upper level. In Chronicles the writing style is dry and legalistic - very inhuman, King David is tempted by Satan here for the exact same thing. (See 2 Sam 24:1 vs 1 Ch 21:1). Legalism is of Satan and it paralyzed us, just look at insurance and fear of lawsuits prevents us from helping others or even just living our lives.
Daniel mentions 4 kingdoms in multiple terms, gold, silver, iron, clay/iron, is one such set, each one progressively lower and moving from glorious to bondage and dirt.
The Gospels are I believe for the 4 kingdoms as viewed in each one. Mathew being the lowest one is the most matter of fact, sort of dry telling, with much doom and gloom. John being the highest one is the most spiritual and most hopeful. Inconsistencies like needing a stick to get Jesus a drink on the cross vs apparently Him being low enough to not need a stick is because of the high difference between the levels. This is also the reason for slight differences in the gospels, each one is 100% true as viewed in that world level. Matth being a tax colloect, which is like a mobster today and John being a fisherman, a enjoyable job
God mentions 3 heavens, it would make sense that He could make a multilevel earth.
Why were only 3 ‘invited’ to the transfiguration, when Jesus had the Kingdom of God be visible to only Peter James and John? I’m sure He would have liked to show all 12, but only 3 could. This I believe was because these 3 were in the upper kingdom, the rest were on other levels.
The Hebrews enslaved in Egypt may not have meant necessarily a physical trip, but lowered to L3 and then L4 where they were oppressed.
I believe there is quite a bit more that supports this concept in scriptures, including the meaning of the tower of Babel, Isaiah vs. Jeremiah and others, and what to ‘fall’ in battle really means.
Just to add, John being on a upper level, closer to God was feed by God and had his need met by God. His profession is a fisherman, and it seems enjoyable and productive and freeing. His later profession being a ‘fisher of men’ is his role of reaching down to the lower level and pulling people up.
Matthew is closet to the satanic level, L4, and as such, just as demons are viewed as consuming people, Mathew’s profession is to feed off of others, him sitting at a tax collectors table seems like oppressive work, confining him to one spot.
Then a book, chapter and verse for ‘spirit’ then. And yes sometimes the word for soul is used which I have already said.
Named Fantasy, Mistake, Fiction, and Parable respectively.
I think you are done.
Then if that is the case
May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the Love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all (2 Cor 13:14)
I’m not one to criticize people for making up their own religion, but I reserve the right to offer artistic critiques if they’re doing it badly. Your story sounds more like Eckankar on acid or Baha’i in a blender than the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, or of The Ring.
Mass is ended, go forth to love and to serve the Lord. Amen. (crosses oneself)
(Sorry-flashbacks) 
Seriously, Kanicbird, have you ever talked to a minister about your beliefs?
Doubting the bible is more foolish than doubting God?
Men keep their souls in their penis? Did not know that. Where do women keep theirs? Are lesbians left out, then? That kind of sucks.
And wow. Fuck you right into the ground for this:
Do you have any idea how insulting this is? (And yes, I do know it’s a common belief.) Do you honestly believe that if Adam hadn’t made his choice (just as Eve made hers), then the human race would all be golden and sin-free? We’d all still be in Eden? God would’ve just said, “It’s OK; we’ll get you another one?”
Face it, humanity was doomed the instant Eve bit into the fruit (if you believe in Christianity), and no amount of church doctrine and hand-waving apologists can make it go away. You’re going to have to terms with that some day.
Sorry, church paternalism makes me all stabby.
So what happens, Kanicbird, if a woman is raped? Does that count with all this spiritual gobbeldy-gook?
What if a child is conceived through rape, and the woman’s husband adopts him/her? What then? What about abusive parents?
Or children who are adopted-are you telling me that their parents don’t care about them or truly “Love” them as much as bio parents could?
My Ouija board once told me that my sphincter’s name was Todd.
The soul is the core being of the person, the penis in just a physical way that the man can enter a woman to beget offspring.
The story of Adam and Eve foreshadows Jesus (bridegroom) and the Church (bride of Christ), the Love of Jesus for mankind and the Love of Adam for Eve. Eve was tempted by Satan and was deceived, she had no way of getting back to Adam, just as we have no way (of ourselves) to get back to God. Adam chose to willingly to be with Eve because he was made to Love Eve so much that he would be willing to die for her, just as Jesus did for us, though Jesus can bring us all back to God, something Adam could not.
So Adam didn’t have a choice because of his Love for Eve, just as Jesus didn’t have a choice because of His Love for us. (and btw the sin of Adam was worse and got a bigger sentence then Eve, namely the death sentence.- ‘For dust you are and dust you will return’).
The following 2 verses I believe is the basis of all gender based issues:
comments in () are mine.
In Adam willingly disobeying he was creating his own reality, as such has become his own ‘god’. men have been given the power of god 1-to create their own reality (as Adam did), 2- be worshiped, and 3- to enter woman and produce life. Satan and the demons also have these 3 characteristics: 1 the path Eve took was a path (reality) Satan created, 2 - demons can be worshiped 3 - demons can enter human women and have offsrping, called nephilum (gen 6:4) and are also called gods, and God has these 3 characteristics as well 1 - God creates all reality, 2 God entered Mary and created the human Jesus, 3 - the Lord God can and is worshiped.
Because only the man is given the knowledge of good and evil, and only the man has become like God is the reason that the woman is to submit to her husband. But as Jesus doesn’t demand we submit to him, it is a willing act on our parts, the woman’s submission should be a free will decision, and both of these based on Love the person feels. He is suppose to be a Christ figure that she can depend on and he can comfort her. It is also the reason why a woman should not be put in a position of authority over a man.
The taking of the man’s name gives her full authority of the new family and is the exact same reason we believers get to pray in the name of Jesus, we get His name.
I personally didn’t like the gender based differences either at first, and though that they were old and no longer applied, but they are as much true today as they were back then. I did have a really tough time coming to terms with this but men and women are made differently and is it a reflection of the relationship of Jesus and the church and it is a beautiful relationship.
[IMHO] Some rape I believe is part of the deal made before birth for our life path, so it is agreed upon and not spiritually rape and any child would be part of that deal.
In our age of planned parenthood, I can tell you that lots of children are not with their true parents and the family unit, the basis of humanity is almost lost. We have a lost generation of children who grow up unloved.
But adoptive parents IMHO can be the real ‘begotten’ parents, though they may be incapable of having a biological child. [/IMHO]
As I said earlier I talk to several ministers in my ministry of the Lord Jesus.
What do these ministers say?