What you say you hate and what you actually hate are different. You see this stuff and find it funny, rather than hating it. When shown that you can inherently have no proof that it’s a joke, you continue to argue it is. When shown that the guy who ran it is a legitimate bigot in the legislature, you continue to say it’s just a joke.
And this is hardly the first time you have downplayed the seriousness of bigotry. This has been pointed out to you every time you do it. You even downplay the systemic sexism in the very culture you are currently in.
You have a habit of treating women’s issues as unimportant, and this is another example. You find out that r/redpill is run by a sexist lawmaker, and your response is to downplay it all as a joke. A lawyer, of all people, downplays the idea that there are many very awful people in the world.
And your entire evidence is an appeal to incredulity, while discounting arguments that aren’t logical flaws. Surely a lawyer, trained in rhetoric, should know better.
Here’s the thing: There is a place in the world for a genuine MRA. In fact IIRC the paper thin facade of MRA does mention issues where men’s rights are an issue that should be addressed.
In practice the redpill just turns into the cultish hatefest echo-chamber that just builds on more and more misogyny and anger. That part isn’t just for the lulz. It has real world consequences.
There are reddit groups that try to cover genuine MRA issues (but they do not use that term because it is so utterly toxic). They are nowhere near as big as redpill because they lack the hateporn.
I will take you at your word on what you have seen and had described to you. My differences is with your not relating them at all to the Redpill crowd, which I believe is an assumption that is not well-founded, since while you may know what is in the hearts of those who have abused women whom you have actual contact with, I question if you can have the same depth of knowledge of those (mostly aynomous) on a message board.
They would do it now by making his life difficult: Protesting outside the New Hampshire State House, his places of business and home address. He owns two computer repair shops called Same Day Computer. There’s a location in Laconia and another in Portsmouth. His home address, office phone number and state rep e-mail are also listed in his official state rep profile.
New Hampshirites should really ask themselves, “How can a man like Robert ‘Rapist’ Fisher be an effective public servant? Could he effectively represent our daughters, mothers and wives even if it was under supervision?”
Does someone want to briefly sum up the trail of evidence which allegedly proves the founder of RedPill is this New Hampshire politician? You see, I have a weak stomach and can only read fake news garbage like the Daily Beast in small doses; certainly not enough to read the full article.
For the sake of clarity in this matter, his private business would be his primary occupation – State Representative in New Hampshire is very much a part-time position, there’s 400 of the suckers and they are paid the princely sum of $200 per two-year term plus mileage.
Here’s the deal, AK84: if you visited redpill once, read for a bit, thought “wow, these guys are losers and mostly trolling each other, what a stupid circle jerk”, that’s fine.
But if you keep going there, I have to wonder why. The internet is full of crazy people going on about crazy things. Someone who keeps going there finds some sort of emotional resonance with what is being said. It’s possible someone who really, really hated MRA/PUA types would go there to get all Recreationally Outraged, but I don’t think that’s you. You don’t seem to be the guy who gets an indignation boner over this sort of thing. The other reason that comes to mind is that while these guys are over the top and crazy, you don’t think they are entirely wrong and you enjoy seeing your own views exaggerated and stylized.
There may be some other reason. I don’t really know or care. But it’s not a place I can imagine someone repeatedly lurking just out of innocent fun.
Been there perhaps a dozen times in the last six months. And probably that many time someone has sent me a link to a specific thread on WhatsApp or FB. Usually, some outraged Feminist, since this may surprise you, most of my social and professional group consists of those types of people.
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Your power of getting into my head and reading my innermost thoughts and motivations. You should join the NSA </sarcasm>
And I think my patience with this thread is at an end. And my participation.
MISSED ETA: I think my first visit was the in the days after Trump was elected. A time when I increased exponentially my reading of “deplorable” sites, like Breitbart, InfoWars, Return of Kings. The RedPill was one of them. Since the election was a surprise, I thought I better read up more about these types of people and their views. The first two are plenty dangerous. Return of Kings is unreadable and RedPill is a bunch of people venting, saying outrageous things and basically, what I have said upthread.
Eliot Rodger was on puahate.org, an anti-Pick Up Artist website, he was not in any way associated with any Mens’ Rights movement websites. The claim that he was an MRA, along with the focus on /r/TheRedPill, is mainly a very dishonest tactic designed to slander MRAs. You know, there’s a /r/MensRights for MRAs.
The main issue that MRAs raise that is valid, IMHO, is that there is a double standard between men and women in Western society with regards to things like domestic violence, relationship attitudes, child custody, etc.
