i wish this fool would get out of my face. not content with forcing his lame arse recycled used on a far better hip hop track 5 years or more ago beats on my ears, i notice he lays claim now to not only inventing the remix (which he blatantly DID NOT), he claims that he invented the whole celebrity dating another celebrity thing.on this note, due to the fact i can play guitar, i invented rock music and invented dating girls.
find a proper hip hop name
shut the fuck up
retire, sit on your cash, fuck off
and take all your wack MC findings with you, and your child molester friends nobarse
grrr
while im at it irv gotti and ja rule can kiss my grits also.
I’d like to think that I’m quite exposed to a lot of popular culture. Such a claim is open to debate of course, but I would respectfully suggest that Sean Coombs is far from being in MY face.
I would like to note however that I avoid music videos if I can - I far prefer radio.
To be honest, the most ho hum “in your face artists” these past few years have been Avril Lavigne, Britney Spears, 'NSync, Justin Timberlake, and Christina Aguilera. Puff Daddy is way down the list as far as market saturation goes - in my humble opinion.
But hell, maybe London has been undergoing a Puff Daddy festival lately.
not really. i dont have MTV, dont have time to listen to radio and avoid pop charts like the plague. its more the super arrogant comments as detailed above hes made that get ma goat.
i can happily ignore the fools you mention Boo Boo, but this guy fucks me right off
At least in Hip Hop, Puffy’s remix of SuperCat’s “Dolly My Baby” was definitely the first of its kind. Pete Rock’s first remix of a hip hop song came a couple of months later.
Puffy’s remix of Craig Mack’s “Flava In Your Ear” I think was the song that got almost every producer in hip hop to copy the style of adding guest rappers to a track that was already popular (something that you hear constantly now on radio stations like Hot 97).
Puffy was also the first producer to remix a finished track in the studio by adding his own (non-rapping) voice overs to the song – whether this is a good thing or not is debatable.
I don’t listen to a lot of older music, so I have no idea if there were remixes before this in other genres of music. But Puffy was definitely the inventor of the hip-hop style remix.
So Kool Herc and Grandmaster Flash mean nothing? Hip hop was based on the remix. It began with DJs extending the breakbeat of a song so people could dance to it for longer, essentially creating a remix. As DJs developed more creative techniques, the remixes became more complex, eventually spawning original works (though the remix still maintained a place in the music). Puffy may have brought a new aspect to the remix, but he invented the remix about as much as The Ramones invented rock n roll.
I mostly agree with the OP, with the exception of Puffy’s track Bad Boy For Life which had a killer hook in spite of Puffy’s weak as shit rapping.
What about the Tribe Called Quest remixes that came out before that? “Jazz (We Got)”, Bonita Applebaum Remix (which Puffy jacked for “Big Poppa”), and the Scenario remix all came out before Puffy remixed Dolly My Baby. Brand Nubian remixed “Wake Up,” and that came out in '91. That’s all I can think of off the top of my head, but I’m sure more will occur to me on the train home.
What about the “Buddy” remix by De La Soul or the “Scenario” remix by A Tribe Called Quest? They both came out before “Flava In Your Ear”
Puffy may have done a lot to popularize remixes, but he didn’t invent shit.
davidw: Maybe my memory is failing, but I remember the SuperCat remix being played in clubs before any of the Tribe remixes. The original of the Supercat song itself is pretty old (mid-80’s?) and I believe that remix was sent out to dj’s way before it hit the radio. That’s not a solid fact and I don’t have a cite, so there’s a good chance I’m wrong on that. Good point about the Buddy remix. I still would say that the Craig Mack remix did a lot more to popularize that type of remix though.
gex gex, yes hip hop is based on “remixing” break beats, but I was talking about a very specific type of remix that Puffy is known for. You could argue that the Dust Brothers’ production on the Beastie Boys’ Paul’s Boutique is the precursor to Puffy’s style of hip hop, I guess.
But Puffy’s style of production has about as much in common with Kool Herc’s as DJ Q-Bert’s scratching technique does with Grand Wizard Theodore’s. Sure both Puffy and Q-bert wouldn’t be around today if it wasn’t for the older artists but I don’t think its taking anything away from Kool Herc to say that what Puffy did in the 90’s was something noone else had done.
Well, I never said it was something to overly thrilled about…
Ironically, I was visiting some friends over the weekend - big hi-fi fans going all the way back to the 1970’s. The husband builds his own entertainment suites with his own speaker cabinet designs - 2 x 12" woofers along with multiple tweeters and 4" speakers etc. A really talented engineer in that respect.
They mentioned to me that they rarely listen to music anymore - and that they were a abit sad about that too. We mulled it over for a while and the general consensus was this - they’re just tired of buying a modern album and finding so much inferior songwriting filling the album between the “standouts” as it were.
It’s a highly subjective thing to be sure - but I suspect their feelings aren’t isolated.
To quote them… “So much modern music is, ummm… just plain disappointing…”
There are exceptions of course, but my observation is that my friends found the process of trying to keep up with modern music a bit too dispiriting lately - they’ve had too many disappointments to not be wary if you know what I mean.
You know, i’m fairly young (just 30) and I listen to everything from the Marilyn Manson to Duke Ellington, and honestly, there are decent musicians and singers out there. Granted, they’re few and far between, (read: Jack Johnson and Ch. Aguilera) but they’re there, right.
Along comes piddly, diddly, daddy poo poo or whatever the fuck, claiming to be the new rat pack with that kutcher dupe, and whoever else gloms on. I say piddly diddly can kiss my ass. He can’t rap, he can’t act, he can barely produce, he’s a snotty fashionista, and little else. If he’s got 1/10th of the cool in his entire posse that Sammy Davis Jr. or Miles Davis had in their toenail clippings, he’d be one lucky sumbitch.
He’ll get old, still try to be young, and be as hackneyed as they come in a few years.
