So did you miss my post entirely? And yes, most people do lack information. In fact, most don’t have a clue. They only get the Zionist side of the story from the American news media, as well as decades of Hollywood-fueled anti-Arab racism.
Speaking of which: www.ifamericansknew.org
Not at all. In fact, I had your post in mind when I wrote the part about people who rely on “just a selected set of facts”.
If the Israelis wanted to, they could wipe out all of the Palestinians in about a week. They haven’t. Therefore, I find claims of Zionist genocide just on the far side of hyperbole.
Maybe they just keep nickel-and-diming the Palestinians because it’s fun? You know, keep them around like a cat does a mouse to avert boredom?
Seriously people, get some perspective.
If that is true why don’t they?
Bobby Kennedy was killed by Palestine?
Are you really asking why a nation that has been repeatedly threatened with extinction (drowning the state of Israel in the sea, etc.) has not attempted to exterminated its enemies in a similar fashion despite having more than sufficient justification (1948, 1967, 1973) and military might to do so, several times over?
I don’t know… may have something to do with restraint due to ethics, morals, real political implications/ramifications.
Else, “why don’t they” indeed.
Sirhan Sirhan was a Palestinian with Jordanian citizenship who assassinated Bobby Kennedy over complaints related to Kennedy’s support of Israel. I had to look it up, too.
Because Israel is not like Hizbollah or Hamas.
Which goes towards answering your earlier question on why we support either side. On one side, we have a nation with a legitimate claim to exist, who is acting primarily in self-defense, living on lands it mostly came by legitimately, with an almost infinitely superior record on humans rights, vs. terrorist regimes dedicated to wiping Israel off the map. Yet all the publicity seems to focus on these highly slanted and dishonest “reports” against Israel. Go figure.
Regards,
Shodan
They don’t wanna.
No, the Israelis started the war of 1967. It was a war of choice, and Menachem Begin admitted it in the early 1980s. In 1973, Sadat and Assad were pursuing limited war aims in a very foolhardy strategy, designed to recover the lands lost in 1967. They knew that they could not conquer all of Israel.
Israel has no intrinsic right to exist, or a “legitimate claim” as you put it. They do not act in self-defense; instead from the earliest days of the political Zionist movement, they have acted with the goals of ethnic cleansing and expansion. Do you consider that coming by lands legitimately?
I already mentioned the terrorism pioneered (and continued) by the Zionists. Most Americans don’t know anything about all of that. If anything’s slanted and dishonest, it’s the surreal media landscape in the US. That’s hopefully changing.
If the indigenous people of the Americas, Southern Africa, Australia, and New Zealand could fight to keep/reclaim their land, why can’t the Palestinians? It’s not too late for the Southwestern US, Southern Africa, and Palestine.
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It’s much less likely, urgent, and perhaps less popular, but reconquista is possible in theory.
What kind of human shield would a child make anyway? They are small, and rounds would punch right through them.
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OurLordPeace:
The Israelis might have fired the first shots, but the first acts of war - removal of the UN peacekeepers from the Sinai in violation of prior armistice agreements - were performed by Egypt.
As a matter of fact, Israel is the only nation on earth with a UN mandate establishing their legitimate right to exist. So yes, they do have a legitimate claim.
Regards,
Shodan
That’s a good technical point, but I think one act is more significant than the other. That was Begin’s point, as well.
Questioner, read by Bill Maher: “How is American Exceptionalism viewed outside the US?”
Kim Campbell, former Canadian PM: “Dimly.” <audience cheers>
That “exceptionalism” thing does not go over well.
Questioner, read by me: “What the hell does American Exceptionalism have to do with Israel’s right to exist?”
Any rational person, except perhaps an anti-Zionist: “Not a fuck of a lot.”
Regards,
Shodan