Palin to media: So how about in honor of the American soldier, you quit making up things

You just loved her resignation announcement, didn’t you!? :smiley:

I don’t think you’re talking about the same thing the OP is talking about. :wink:

Well, sure! 'Cos you know what else makes you go blind?

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I’m aware of what the intended function of the press is, and yes, plenty of nonsense about Palin and Obama has been reported. Her commentary - our troops are great, so the press should report the truth - is still rambling nonsense.

It would be lovely if she would adhere to the same standard. Soldiers fight and die to protect her right to free speech; does that mean she has to lie while exercising it?

I’m just describing her position, not defending it or saying she’s not hypocritical.

This may be a good reason she has such a problem with the media in a national campaign. She can’t manipulate the conversation the way she can in local politics.

All I know is there was a time when I really wanted to like her. When I heard the GOP VP candidate was a female governor from Alaska, I had high hopes for a tough no-nonsense pragmatism mingled with the ability to consensus-build.

Now if I listen to her for more then ten seconds, I become irritated on an instinctive level. Whether or not she is dumb, she sure sounds dumb, and it puts me off.

If it doesn’t already have a name, I propose “cow-dropping.” Or maybe “straw-mining.”

The media ddid not report the Trig Palin thing. That was a single public post on a blog (by a public poster, not the website), which was immediately denounced by other readers and quickly removed. That was the entirety of any “media” involvement with spreading that story. The rest of that news cycle was about how horrible it was that Daily Kos was spreading lies. It actually served to soften the story that her daughter really was pregnant. I suspect that McCain/Palin planted the Kos post itself just for that reason.

In any case, the media has not been making things up about Palin.

I kind of am, actually.

Sarah Palin’s entire speaking repertoire seems to consist of a stream of consciousness that goes “Me me me talk about me wait I don’t like where this is going let’s use a distraction that every real American/Alaskan unthinkingly bows down before like the troops or Jesus or mother nature or something okay that worked now back to me me me”.

Plumbing it for more depth is silly.

In her future as an author (ugh) or a commentator (first indirectly-linked hate crime will be within a year of her official start on Fox), expect her to do the same thing, but she’ll feel more secure to throw in a few random dogwhistles.

-Joe

It’s like Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure where the jock gets up to give an incoherent speech then says “San Dimus football rocks” to thunderous applause.

Her comment would be nonsense, if that was her comment. But you are misquoting, missummarizing, and mischaracterizing it, because of your feelings about ex-Gov. Palin.

A better summary: our troops fight to keep democracy strong in America; democracy also requires a free press, which is why you get to print what you want without much interference from government, so do so responsibly, in honor of those who keep you able to do it.

Just because Sarah Palin is an idiot doesn’t make everything she says idiotic, just as the fact you are a Moderator doesn’t make everything you do jack-booted. :wink:

At best, it’s a giant non-sequitur (what specifically is she alleging that media is making up?). On its most basic demagogic level (and I honestly believe she HAS no other level), it’s an insinuation that criticism of Sarah Palin is disrespectful to the military.

Well, that’s a fine sentiment, particularly when it’s apropos of something, like an address to a convention of journalism professionals.

What was Mrs. Palin’s speech apropos of?

Wait: I already have a perfectly adequate response to that question: *She is not important enough to bother with. There are many other subjects that are far more worthy of your time and attention. *

So :smack: to me for feeding the troll.

I actually agree with you about her intent in the statement. I disagree with you on the clarity of it. Your “summary” is actually far more coherent than anything she said.

Does it make sense? Sure, in a way, but so what? It is certainly something we should all be cognizant of, I would guess. But it is clear that she is using it as a rhetorical device to defend herself from some vague pressindeiscretions. It is a broad accusation clearly leveled at the press with nothing behind it. SO her invocation of the troops is clearly pandering to create an equivalency between her struggles with the press and the troop scarifices. If she had equated soldiers sacrifice with the broad responsibilities of being Americans, that would be one thing, possibly. But the way she framed it is ridiculous.

BTW, I wonder how she feels about the gay troops who sacrifice so much for their country, only to be summarikly discharged from service.

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The line was “San Dimas High School football rules!”

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Agreed. The things she says are idiotic because she’s an idiot, not the other way 'round.

Palin was probably shooting for something like what you said. Nonetheless, the way she said it, it’s a hash. That’s why I said it’s a typical jumble of ideas for her: even when you know what she means, you have to translate for her and do a better job making her case. :wink:

Well, yes, I think I did point out it wasn’t exactly Lincolnesque in its quality. :o

I’d assert that I had no trouble understanding the meaning, but I’m not sure that’s something I want to admit. :eek: :smack: