And meanwhile, there are far more qualified actresses, who don’t have her fallback position, and who probably don’t even get to audition for those roles because Paris was cast for no reason except that she IS who she is…
OTOH, I can’t even spell his name right, so I gots nuttin’. :smack:
Let’s just say that there are way too many people who live in a crappy studio apartment and hope someday to become Head Barista, claiming that a guy who became President is dumb as a post.
The acting game is tough, but what’s the difference between losing out to Paris vs. losing out to someone because she’s got a better tit job? At least Paris has the opportunity to earn the producer better ratings.
Proof of her idiocy (paraphrased):
“Wal-mart? Is that a store where they sell walls?”
I am glad I don’t live in the moralistic hell that you do.
The thing about it isn’t that we are debating whether or not she is ‘still’ an idiot, or is an idiot ‘again’, but whether or not the delivery doctor should have slapped her mother for foisting her upon us.
“Again” can be quantified by the media. No one is saying she doesn’t ‘still’ do idiotic things, only that it doesn’t dissolve ‘again’ from the equation.
I like that everyone in here is jumping on a mob mentality hate fest of someone who uses different syntax than them, most likely always will, who’s existence they don’t even need to acknowledge, yet somehow I’m the ignorant misuser of word. . .stuff. You people really need a fucking dictionary check.
That’s all it takes to wind up your chain? Sheesh, calm the fuck down and get some perspective. It’s called a “joke”. Laugh a little: you’ll live longer.
Lots of Hollywood types do work hard. Paris just isn’t one of them. Russell Crowe is well known for doing a ton of prep work and research for his roles. Even Tom Cruise impressed both Spielberg and Kubrick by showing up on time with his lines memorized, willing to do as many takes as required to get the scene right. There aint nothing wrong with any artist making a fortune by way of their talent.
What exactly is it that Paris Hilton does that could even be called work, exactly? Sitting for magazine shots? Doing eight balls and fucking everybody around her? I’m lost here. mswas claims that she works hard because she has to put up with “vampires and harpies.” OK, I don’t doubt that Paris is surrounded by a lot of unlovely people hoping that fame is a communicable condition and if they hang around her long enough they’ll catch some. But by all evidence, Paris enjoys having an entourage, and enjoys the attention, even the negative attention. She’s like a two-year old who has to be the center of attention, even if it’s for doing something bad. Cheesesteak Claims that looking good and being notorious is working hard. I don’t get this. Yes Paris has used her circumstances to get money, but that’s luck, not work. By that standard a lottery winner is working hard. Paris got her money through an inheritance and her fame through a sex tape which she hypocritically whined about. And she is not good looking at all. Angelina Jolie and Tyra Banks are good looking. Paris was whacked by a fugly stick. Hell, your average porn star is better looking than Paris Hilton.
I do agree with mswas on one thing though. It’s weird how people–including me I guess–become so invested in her. She’s an unlovely skank, but she doesn’t affect my life. I guess it’s because I hate to see such a horrible scuzz prosper while so many scientists, artists, and far more talented actors labor in obscurity, for little money.
Also, I’m drawn to this thread because I never thought a blight like Paris Hilton would have any defenders on this message board.
Ummm…it was a riff on a previous post by mswas (#39?), so I’ll probably live to be at least 105. I hate it when I have to explain my jokes.
My bad. The post number was 58.
Bah. If you have to explain 'em, then your delivery was off. 
This is a pit thread, yet seems like an intelligent Debate!
Well, she makes night vision videos.
This is America. If you work hard enough at it, anything is possible.
Regards,
Shodan
I would quantify work as “effort”. How much of her energy is she putting into what she does. I don’t think work should necessarily imply ‘laboring for someone else’s profit’. It seems like people here have an idea of work that includes ‘suffering’. If she isn’t suffering for her money then she doesn’t have to work. That is just a fallacy. The only thing her money gains her is a higher likelihood of success at what she does, it doesn’t absolve her from having to work to get what she wants. The thing about these sorts of arenas is that they run off of the politics of social currency. She still had to go out and fuck someone and profit off of that in order to make it big. Are you distinguishing between degrees of whoredom?
Angelina Jolie’s father is John Voight. Does that mean she doesn’t work? Or are you judging her by a different scale because she’s more elegant in how she markets who she fucks, she’s hotter and a better actress? Is the judgment based purely upon aesthetic value?
Most people working in a cube farm do nothing to earn their living. Most companies could have someone come in install a better databasing system and fire 75% of the staff, and probably still enjoy increased productivity. The reason the comic Dilbert does so well is because it touches on truth. A lot of people are doing really useless shit that they hate. I have more admiration for Paris Hilton because she’s out doing shit, she’s being proactive about her life rather than just sitting there letting the wind blow her where it will. She’s looking at things seeing if she likes them, and then trying her hand at them. Most people are too lazy to do that regardless of whether or not they had an inheritance. I think someone that got a job in a cube farm because it was the first one to come along is far and away lazier than Paris Hilton. I have a sneaking suspicion most of the people here pointing a finger are that lazy sod who hates their life and can’t stand someone who gets to be rich, party all the time and ignore the social judgments that hold so many people back.
I see a lot of talented artists that shoot themselves in the foot when it comes to earning a living because they are antagonistic to commerce. It happens all the time. I don’t know about scientists, but I’d imagine its a similar scenario.
Chefguy: As the butt of your joke I’d like to say I got it. Thanks for your criticism on my grammer. Hopefully I’ll take it to heart and learn as much about grammer as you do about wit.
Erek
To the extent that I think about her, the main reason I don’t like PH is because of her reality show. I think I’ve said this before, but I think that if “Jackass” had a disclaimer, so should “The Simple Life”. “Warning: These young women are dishonest and irresponsible. No employer would put up with this crap for more than an hour.”
I didn’t watch the show regularly, but since it was often sandwiched between shows I did like, I caught the occasional episode and was in turn caught by the trainwreck aspect. I would hate to think of impressionable girls seeing and imitating PH and Nicole Richie’s behavior. Not that either of them is so superpopular that kids will do something just because they did it (I hope), but there are kids who will do anything just because they saw it on TV. I know it was staged, it had to be, but still, showing those two “working” as baggage handlers and going through people’s luggage was ridiculous, and possibly dangerous.
mswas
As I said in my last post I do agree that it’s strange that so many people, including myself, are so obsessed with her. Honestly, I really don’t spend that much time thinking about her, but somehow I’ve gotten sucked into this thread. So this will be my last post. The last word is yours, should you want it. 
I just want to clear up a couple of misconceptions.
I don’t hate Paris for her inheritance. This would be pretty hypocritical of me since I have a small (very small) inheritance myself. I certainly don’t hate her for seizing the opportunities that have been presented to her. I’d probably do the same thing myself. And I don’t really care who she has sex with. I’m generally against pointless moralizing. I’ve defended Kate Moss on these boards and elsewhere, and I can’t understand the pious bloviating over her personal cocaine use, which harms no one.
Also I think I spent too much time on the “work” aspect. If she’s got an opportunity to make cash without working hard, who am I to criticize her for it? However, her statement quoted by the OP is pretty laughable.
The reason I do hate Paris Hilton is simply because she is a repellent human being. She is utterly shallow, cruel to those around her, oblivious of the wider world, selfish, spoiled, nasty, and profoundly stupid. See Boardwalk Elvis’s post above for just a few examples of her rotten behaviour. Also I pit society (again including myself, I guess) for paying so much attention to this bitch.
I only brought up Angelina Jolie as an example of a woman who is much more physically attractive (IMO) than Paris Hilton, whose sex appeal is vastly overrated.
But as long as we’re bringing her up, she’s not only prettier than Paris, she’s a much better person too. At least she tries–perhaps in a superficial “showbiz” way–to learn about the world around her and to use her celebrity to make it a better place. I don’t think Paris even knows there’s a world outside herself.
My thought on it is this. If no one paid attention to Paris, she’d fade into obscurity. I’ve never met her, so she’s never contacted me personally and made me aware of her existance. I didn’t know she existed until that dude fucked her on camera. There are millions of people complicit in keeping her in the public sphere. I think she’s hilarious. She’s a dumb bitch, and it’s fun to hate a dumb bitch. I’m not so opposed to people hating on her, but when they start to take their own vitriole seriuosly, that’s when I feel it is my moral duty and obligation to make them feel stupid, a courtesy I hope would be extended to me in my time of need.
Erek
It’s spelled “felatio”.
I thought she was just doing coke.
So it’s sort of a hand-to-mouth existence?
I don’t think she does cube farms.
If it was ‘commerce’, it would be called 'prostitution.
I’m almost certain that you not only didn’t get it, but still don’t.
LOL That is funny and true. Anybody can wind up in the gutter if they try hard enough 
To be fair, her reality show was very heavily staged.
mswas, so basically, it boils down to, “y’all jus jellus!!!”
:rolleyes:
I don’t hate her because she’s rich or because she’s famous. I don’t like her because she’s a selfish, stupid skank, and because she seems to be making that kind of image popular again. Reese Witherspoon mentioned this in an interview, saying that her mother and grandmother didn’t fight for the right to sit around and say, “I’m stupid, isn’t it cute?”
No, it’s not cute. It’s incredibly annoying. She’s twenty-four years old, and brags about how she knows nothing about art or literature because, “Kids my age don’t care about that stuff.” She pisses in public corners, because she’s too damned lazy to go to the bathroom.
I don’t like seeing her in the media all the time, with young girls looking up to her as a role model. She’s NOT a role model. She’s vapid, shallow, she has no sense of style, grace, ellegance or class. And yet, we’re constantly seeing her referred to as the new “it girl”, along with Lindsay, Hilary, Nicole, etc.
Enough of this shit. Stupid and shallow isn’t cute, it isn’t sexy, or stylish. It’s disgusting.