Just when we thought that curlcoat & Co got tired of it, somebody new pops up. Are these new people? Or is it curlcoat posting from her husband’s PC? Wait, they didn’t get welfare they applied for, they probably have only one PC.
5-HT, as Carol Stream and curlcoat you might want to address what I already said several times:
The vast majority of society approves of children and supports them financially. It does not need to be justified, it’s just that the majority wishes it to be so. We live in a democracy, remember?
But everybody is free to found a new political party based on abolishing society’s support for children. Let’s see whether it will get support, let alone enough public support to get somebody elected.
Continuation of the species is a happy by-product. However, calling parents selfish for doing what parents have done for the past 10,000 years or so is fucking retarded.
I’m sure this has come up countless times in this thread, but these child haters do realize they were children themselves at some point, right? Are they all into the voluntary human extinction movement? I’m still a little perplexed as to where these people are coming from.
Doesn’t matter, anyway – active “child-haters” are outvoted several hundred thousand to one (at best). Their opinions don’t make a difference in the real world.
I don’t know what would make me jump back into the 29th page of this, but are we sure it’s actually children that are the object of the hatred? Can or have any of the self-proclaimed haters confirmed that indeed it is young people they hate and not the parents who they perceive to not be reining in the bad behavior(which I can get behind)? I haven’t read every post, or every page for that matter, but curlcoat’s biggest gripe seems to be more of a monetary, tax, governmental gripe. Am I just being sucked into an under the bridge vortex of trollishness?
You’re being sucked in. While I haven’t been totally thorough reading this (as this will be at least post 1450), curlcoat’s been griping about pretty much anything she can: parents, “kids these days,” taxes, logic, sanity. You name it.
Read for comphrension, if that’s possible. A person taking care of his/her spouse and children does not equal said family members taking advantage of the caregiver.
No, WE don’t.
What’s next? WE ARE BORG, YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED! :rolleyes:
The two terms are not mutually exclusive, unless you define “democracy” to mean strictly direct democracy, in which every decision is referred to majority rule by all the voters.
However, nobody but rightwing nutbags would define “democracy” so restrictively in ordinary political discourse. Hell, even many rightwing nutbags routinely refer to the US and other similarly-structured republics as democracies; for instance, former President Bush:
See this Straight Dope Staff Report on the subject if you really need help understanding these two terms, and aren’t just throwing in some obstructionist snark.
Oh, it’s not I that don’t understand the terms, but rather kalhoun and his ilk, who think the the U.S. is a “collective” that “embraces many socialist ideologies.”
Read for comphrension, if that’s possible. A person taking care of his/her spouse and children does not equal said family members taking advantage of the caregiver.
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So, how do you feel about a person who takes her kid to a fine dining establishment where high chairs are provided? It is up to the business owner, right? How is that infringing on your experience? I only ask because you have never given me a satisfactory answer on this question.
Read for comphrension, if that’s possible. A person taking care of his/her spouse and children does not equal said family members taking advantage of the caregiver.
You are right. We may have had some miscommunication, my fault I’m sure, but you were right.
Gawd you are an idiot. Do you not understand that “disability” is not just one tightly defined thing? That some conditions that are disabling are progressive? That many disabled people can work, at least for some time? And the one that should be really obvious - that the federal government doesn’t give a crap either way? Not that they haven’t even gotten to the point where they “buy it” or not in my case, but whether they do or not, they aren’t exactly consistent in that area.
The more you post about disability and/or disability benefits the more you prove you don’t know anything at all about either subject. Shall I send you a picture of my parking permit? :rolleyes:
As for sponging off my husband, if I were a SAHM or a professional student, you wouldn’t have that attitude. The only reason you don’t approve of my not working is because I don’t like kids.
You keep saying that and you keep ignoring the fact that many of those children will grow up to never work, or certainly work far less than I have.
Welfare check? Sapped the system for YEARS? Scamming? What in the world are you talking about? I have never had welfare, have never “sapped” or “scammed” the system. Except, I guess, in your mind and that only because you have some warped idea about punishing people who don’t think like you.
As for looking for a job :rolleyes: I’d love to be able to work again since I don’t like having to live on a tight budget, but my working is just not an option any more. I’m sorry it messes up your rigid idea of what the world is, but that’s just too bad.
This would be one of your rigid, unrealistic ideas.
Showing again how little you know. You have never seen a person in a wheelchair who has a job? That person is earning money but is still disabled, right? And maybe they can work until retirement age, or maybe they have a progressive condition that causes them to go on disability earlier.
Snort. Using a biased cite doesn’t do much for your postion.
No, but apparently you are incapable of understanding much. I’ll use small words - when I was very young, there was no work available for those of that age. When I turned 13, I was legally allowed to begin work.
They may do so there, but it doesn’t appear to be common in the west. I see mostly adults. I was in McDonalds in Oklahoma and New Mexico last week and didn’t see any teenagers in there either.
What makes me think that teenagers don’t work? Because here, I don’t see them doing so. What does that have to do with the subject at hand?
