People who hate children

Well, here’s another point, then. Children are people. Dogs are not. See the difference, curlcoat?

Heh-heh…I can hardly wait for her response.

No surprise, her answer will always be the same: fleabags are more important than people sigh.

Don’t puppies grow up to take care of their elders? And do working dogs pay taxes for their senior citizens? Did 401 K9s lose a lot of bones during the recession?

I gots to know!

Can you really be that stupid? Then you know disabled people who work, right? You are aware that there is a wide range of disabilities? Or maybe you just don’t realize that you contradicted yourself there.

So?

Probably because I haven’t applied for welfare. :rolleyes: You know that everything you say is proof that the average person in this country should have nothing to do with running it, right? You know - the masses are asses and all that.

No, I am not doing anything near what children do - I don’t take from society without giving back, I don’t go about disturbing other peoples’ meals and shopping and I have already proven my worth.

Nope. Have only applied for SSDI once - as far as I know, that is all you can do.

Actually, those were your “rules” - you claimed that I am sponging off of society simply because I can no longer earn a paycheck, yet for some reason to you children are not sponging. When I point out the error in that, you just try to wave it away by attacking me again. Too bad for you that I am of median intelligence.

So when did any other unemployed person become any part of this discussion? Do you plan to work every day of your life? Oh, that’s right, you can’t and you haven’t.

Nope, I have never collected welfare in my life, even back when I qualified for it.

If you are talking about disability payments, no one calls it welfare because - surprise! - that isn’t what it is.

What does my having once been a child have to do with whether or not I can or cannot work now? You seem to be getting a bit desperate here.

Uh, when did I ever say anything at all like that?

So, I am to assume that because you are not starving and have a roof over your head, you are happy to have just that and will never want more? Uh huh

Again proving you know nothing about disability. Sedentary has nothing to do with it - I know one person who has lupus and it got so bad she couldn’t work at about 55 so she started getting SSDI (once she hired an attorney and forced the feds to listen). She still does dogs, tho far less than she used to. I know another person who was in a car wreck as a teen and is now paralized from the hips down. She has been recieving SSDI for about 25 years even tho she is extremely active in dogsports, including getting a SchHI on her GSD, plus she can sit all day painting from which she gets a small income. Unless she gets a job she will get SSDI for the rest of her life, even tho she has never paid taxes. I don’t know her childfree status - shall I ask so you can decide if you hate her? The first woman had two kids, so I suppose you don’t hate her…

It wasn’t my phrase - go look up what the (recent) originator interpreted it to mean.

Actually, no I’m not - I gave up voting about 15 years ago when it became obvious to me that the majority is completely clueless about where taxes come from and how they are wasted.

In other words, you have no intelligent mature response.

Which of course isn’t a response to what I said but anyway… I may have taken from the system by going to public school for 11 years, but I have more than paid that back by now.

And now, since you have returned to the correspondence level of your childhood, I won’t be bothering with you again unless you can show some brains. Bye! :smiley:

It’s amazing how immature you child lovers can be. Simply because I don’t share your blind love you think I “only have my husband to charm” as if I have no friends? And that my husband works long hours? I’m sorry, but I am not as one dimensional as you are. Maybe that is what happens when you have kids? No, it can’t be that all the time since I have childed friends who are fun and active in many things. Of course, they don’t have a problem with my CF status either, so I guess it is just that you were born with a narrow mind and they weren’t.

We’ve gone over that point with curlcoat again, and again, and again, and she just doesn’t get it. Don’t expect a sane response.

I’m also curious as to how dog owners are taxed. though. I’ve never been taxed for owning a dog. Or a cat. When did they bring in the Dog Tax?

No, the reason you don’t think teenagers work is that you’re too stupid to look into the facts. It’s the same reason you thought people today got married and had children younger than ever.

In fact, teen employment in the USA (and in California, which is about middle of the road) is just above 40% - and that’s in poor times, when teens find it most difficult to find jobs and are usually the first ones dumped by downsizing. That’s among people who are mostly in school, it’s worth noting.

Interestingly, employment among teens rises as family income rises. I’m not exactly sure why that is, but it’s a nearly universal truth; kids from comfortable middle class homes are likelier to work than from poor homes.

You can’t even do the most basic civic duty. Pathetic.

Uh, unemployment figures are based on those who were working and are eligible for work now. Note that I said that many of the children currently around will grow up to never work.

OK, assuming that is true - so? The point is, you all seem to think it’s OK to continue to have all these kids and to throw increasing amounts of money at them based on the fact they will be “the workers of tomorrow”, as if you have never noticed that our prisons are overfull and we have plenty of folks living on welfare.

No, dear. Simply because I don’t share your unquestioning love for all children doesn’t translate into any of that. If nothing else, I probably have a much better life and am a much better person since it isn’t me who is constantly throwing about insults simply because you all continue to force me to support your lifestyle choice.

I too asked about the apocryphal “dog tax” and heard nothing. It’s most likely because no such tax exists.

As you are aware, I don’t get to take a deduction for any children.

You do not have children?

You have never heard of dog licenses?

What makes you think that a service dog is tax deductible?

I have more dogs than the one service dog.

Yeah, it is. Seems if you weren’t in a rush to judge, you might have figured that out. If nothing else, how many service dogs do I need at one time?

Or it could be because I have better things to do than sit at the computer and wait with baited breath to see if you have a question.

Don’t even try, mi amiga.

So?

Wasn’t in a rush to judge—was just qualifying my statement to prevent pointless vitriol. I failed at that hope.

First off: a license isn’t a tax. Just to clear that up. In my area, it’s $15 a year for altered dogs, $28 for unaltered, unless you’re a senior citizen, in which case it’s half as much. That’s less than the price of a bag of dog food.

As for the tax write-offs, it is my understanding that you can write off a service dog as a medical necessity. A cursory google search found this.

:rolleyes: Tax deductions are not the same as subsidization. Subsidization is when they GIVE you money, not when they take less.

Ok, fair point. Did you go to public school? If so, you owe the government for that.

If all those freeloaders under 18 weren’t hogging the kitty she’d have more to scam, and that’s what she’s pissed off about. :rolleyes:

It’s not as conscious as all that, but it’s an innate instinctual drive that many of us are aware of.

I think it’s on the level of the morons in upstate New York who hate people from the city using their taxes when upstate is a net drain on city taxes. More of our taxes go to them than vice versa.

Soooooo…people have rights that dogs don’t have. Is this a hard concept to grasp?

(I know, everyone…we’ve been over this with her. I just don’t get it.)