No, it’s because you are a fucking hypocrite. Most SAHMs or professional students wouldn’t be bitching about government funds for the disabled. Basically you are bitching about funds paid to people who you don’t give a shit about, and that’s all you care about. Of course you think that the funds that help YOU are good. That’s the difference between you and pretty much everyone else in this thread. The rest of us think that schools and disability benefits are social goods. If it weren’t for public school you wouldn’t have the internet to bitch on because the society wouldn’t be educated enough to fill so many white collar professional roles that the infrastructure of an information economy require.
In short, you benefit in so many intangible ways. The people who file your disability forms were once children in public school, as were the nurses, as were the auto-workers that built your car, as was the guy who poured the handicap ramp, and painted the blue handicapped parking space at the store that allows you to get the best parking everywhere.
Basically you are an ungrateful bitch who lives in a first world nation that is able to take care of you rather than just letting the wild take you because your disability made you to convenient for the tribe to support, and you actively hate that money is spent on the very things that make it possible for you to continue to live.
Hearing you call OTHER people selfish is re-fucking-diculous. I have never heard a more selfish argument than yours.
I don’t intend to send my daughter to public school, so I won’t avail myself of that resource, and I hope I never need disability benefits, but I am glad that both services exist in this country.
It’s not different, that’s the point everyone is trying to make.
No one begrudges you your SSDI, it is you that begrudges kids getting an education so that there will be workers to pay into SSDI in 25 years when you will possibly still be drawing out of it.
Notice that this is false, in percentage terms. The number of people who never work is, in fact, miniscule, as a fraction of the population.
Of course, it’s also false that people are getting married younger than ever. It’s false that your city puts most of your property taxes into education. It’s false that dogs have “rights of access.” It’s false to claim that there are no teenagers who work. You’re good at stating falsehoods.
If it helps, this liberal does not believe we are a collectivist state, nor do I desire that we become one.
That said, and while I’m here, your comment earlier about “it takes a village” and Hillary is nonsense. It has always taken a village, and I have always been bemused by conservatives being bent out of shape about that phrase, as it has always struck me as exactly what you’re after: the way things used to be.
If a neighbor sees me and my brother “borrowing” another neighbor’s bike, and comes out, stops us and lectures us, isn’t that a village? If the guy who almost hit me while I was jaywalking on Little Creek Blvd gets my address, and goes and tells my folks what I did, isn’t that a village? In the old days, any adult could chastise and teach any kid for doing wrong, isn’t that a village?
Yes, that’s the natural case of neighbors watching out for neighbors. Nothing unusual about that.
But liberals want to take that quite a bit further, and dictate not only what free people should or shouldn’t be doing, but also requiring that we have to pay for their version of society, because they know better. A million :rolleyes:
Where I grew up, none of these things ever happened. Maybe it’s a local thing, but if I were to lecture a kid after I caught him trying to steal a bike, I’d probably get chewed out by his parents the next day. One time my aunt told a kid to stop running the the lobby of the movie theater and his mom came over and told her off. We’ve moved into an age where any adult just can’t go up and dsicipline any kid that’s misbehaving. That’s a shame, because half the time the parents aren’t going to do it themselves.
It’s a tax just the same as licensing your car is a tax - a user fee if you like that better. Here, it is $75 a year for unaltered and $20 for altered. I don’t think we have a lower rate for seniors but I should check since my husband will be one soon - or is, depending on what age they choose.
Also, if I were to want to have more than three dogs again, I would first have to move, and then I would have to buy a kennel permit, which can be thousands of dollars depending on what I would have to do to qualify. If I could qualify - no new kennel licenses have been issued in this county since I moved here almost 20 years ago.
Compare that to people being able to have as many kids as they want, with almost no restriction on how many they can stuff into any given house, and no requirements on being able to properly care for them unless it gets really bad. We have laws that specifically cover dog noise and waste, but have never been able to find any that cover child noise and waste.
That appeared to be mostly for the purchase of the service dog, which I didn’t do - Dodger was born here and I trained him myself. As for writing off the care, that seems a little hinky to me and I’ve never had a tax professional mention it. Since I can find a site that says it’s OK to write off all kinds of things, I think I’ll pass on claiming his food.
No, but what you all don’t seem to be able to grasp is that I am a people too, but my choices are taxed, heavily restricted and unfunded. Over the decades, my lifestyle choice has become harder and more expensive to maintain, where the lifestyle choice of parents has been made easier and (comparatively) cheaper. There are large organizations dedicated to trying to eliminate companion animals altogether.
Yes, children are people but why is it that every year I am being forced to fund other peoples’ choice to have those children? Why do you and this vast majority someone else was talking about keep encouraging people to have kids they cannot afford? Whatever happened to parental responsibility?
You all want to have children? Fine. All I ask is you quit expecting me to help raise them. You choose, you be responsible.
Most of that didn’t make much sense to me, but I’ll address the things that did. Or at least, I’ll guess…
The funds paid to people I don’t give a shit about? You mean all of the programs that encourage people to have children they can’t afford? You support that?
The funds that help me? I am assuming you mean the SSDI that I’ve paid into for decades and now want back?
I might think that the schools are social good if they weren’t glorified babysitters here. Whatshername the teacher can wave her fists all she wants, but it isn’t going to change the fact that she isn’t teaching school in S Cal, where “no child left behind” means that every public school child is being taught on the same level as all of the kids that only speak Spanish. Yet all the parents want to do is throw more money at it, as if that would solve the problem. Our public schools here are not creating white collar workers of tomorrow.
No honey, you are the ungrateful bitch. You suck up all this free money and services simply because you have reproduced and then have the gall to get nasty when those you are feeding on try to say “ENOUGH”. Your kids don’t need to stay free or eat free or have playgrounds in every neighborhood, but that doesn’t stop you all from demanding these things, does it? Maybe if parents could be bothered to be responsible, we wouldn’t have to keep funding after school programs (i.e. after school babysitting), and my city wouldn’t have to have a anti-graffitti task force. You should really look into the number of child-centered things taxes and higher prices fund.
And then, you expect that I am to consider your child more important than anything in my life. Amazing.
All humans are selfish. Choosing to have children is selfish. Expecting others to continue to pay for that choice is selfish.
Huh. You won’t send your kid to a public school, but you don’t see any problem with us wasting all this money on it?
HA! There are people here who tell me I’m not disabled. They begrudge.
No, and perhaps if you weren’t so narrowly focused you would actually understand what I write. I resent paying for our essentially useless public schools, I resent that you all think it’s ok to keep having kids under the guise that we will need more workers in the future and expect me to pay for that delusion, and I resent that I had to work far past the time I should have retired in order to pay taxes to support your lifestyle choice. I also resent that Octomom is recieving SSDI for two of her kids, which she should never had been allowed to have, when us old useless folks have to hire lawyers to just get the fed to listen to us about it.
Alas, I omitted the second word in the second part of the message you were answering. (You are easily confused.) It should have read:
You’d mentioned that you have friends with children. Do you chastise them for counting them as tax deductions? Do you explain how their kids in public school are taking your money?
Alternately, take my statement as written, but without the question mark:
Point your child-having friends to this thread. See what they think…