No, that’s an entirely different token, and not at all related to the thing I’m disagreeing about. That’s a difference in moral values and the mechanics of consent as portrayed in the media. “Why are you complaining about that, and not the murders,” which demonstrates a fundamental failure in understanding how narratives work.
And being concerned about someone kissing a dead loved one goodbye is a fundamental failure to understand how humans work and a deeply idiotic thing to be concerned about.
“A dead loved one”=“someone you sang a duet with about a year ago”. I’m not sure I’m the one failing to understand how humans work.
Which, again, is not what I was talking about.
That is misrepresentation of what happened in the film. You dismiss it as merely singing a song, the film makes it clear that it was love at first sight.
it isn’t tho
I stand by what I said.
Ok, if that is what you took from the film then we’ll leave it there. Others are free to watch it and decide.
You can stand by it, but it’s a bad interpretation. The film does clearly present the prince as her true love, and has them falling in love in that scene. You can argue that it happens too fast. You can say that the genre that allows this type of shorthand is bad. Disney themselves seems to that now.
But saying it was “just a song” ignores the meaning that is being offered both by the author and in the text. It has the same illiterate tone as your textspeak.
How fortunate, then, that I didn’t say “just a song.” My interpretation is in the context of children watching this work and inferring lessons about relationships, consent, and agency from it, and I don’t like the lessons likely to be inferred.
You said, and I quote: “someone you sang a duet with about a year ago." In that post, you reduced it to just singing, which is what @Novelty_Bobble was replying to, saying that was incorrect.
If you now admit that was an oversimplification, then I don’t see how you are in conflict.
I stand by what I said and am not interested in parsing your paraphrase.
Its almost as if this is a fantasy fairy tale with tropes of true love and magic and destiny.
It’s almost as if this is a creepy story.
Why not both?
The film is only 83 minutes long.
My remake will have a years-long romance montage!
At least long enough that the 14-year-old Snow White will age to some more acceptable age…
I think the notion that someone can be brought back to life with a kiss is idiotic in the extreme. It’s sort of like, I dunno, kissing a famous soccer player on the lips and expecting her to be impressed.
This is a film with talking mirrors and magic (wait until you see the one about a time-travelling Delorean).
Think of this in this way, In a fantasy universe where life-giving kisses are possible, the prince is doing the right thing is he not?
Point taken. But I’m not sure that non-consensual kisses are okay is the message we want to send to young people. Just look at the World Cup women’s team.