Pitting Male Gynecologists (possible TMI)

As a matter of clarification, let me tell you now I am on the Depo shot and have been for three years.

So, on a Friday, I was whisked into a doc office because I’ve been having uterine pain pretty severely for about two months. I’ve also been bleeding pretty severely in a way that is not normal for me. Now, I understand that it was almost time for my next Depo, and there is always a little bit of hormonal imbalance when you’re due for your next shot. Generally, though, I like the Depo as an option because it stops my periods which were King Kong Ball sized pain filled episodes.

I see my GP for my pelvics - when I moved to CA, I didn’t have enough time to search out a Gyno before my next Depo was due and I had a female doc who was willing to perform my pelvic and issue my depo so I have been doing that. Unfortunately, when this pain issue became rather unbearable, my female doc was not available and suggested I see one of her colleagues.

When I arrived, I was surprised it was a man. (More on my reasoning for this later.) When I explained to him the pain, my history of endometrial polyps, endometriosis, and the rest, HE DIDN’T EVEN EXAMINE ME. Even when I was telling him of the severity of the pain. No, what he told me was that I was gaining weight because of the depo and was probably feeling the side effects from that and just feeling the fact that I was getting FATTER. Hi. I am 143 on a bad day. At 5’6". 22 BMI for my age level.

So instead of doing AN EXAM, he was pushing me, I mean literally pushing and pushing me to change my method of BC to an oral contraceptive. I have been on oral contraceptives before, and asked him if they caused weight gain as well, because I remember that being a side effect. He said yes, I would just have to get used to the fact that I would keep getting FATTER. His words.

I asked him if oral BC was not necessarily indicated for women over 35 because of possible complications, like the increased likelihood of blood clots and stroke. He said “Hey, it’s a crap shot whatever you do, but I think you should change to Oral.” And then proceeded to try very hard to convince me to change right then at that moment.

I told him I was not ready to make a change at that time as I needed to discuss it with my partner. I then went home and collapsed into a mini mental breakdown. For several reasons.

Firstly - why does everyone call me FAT? I am 140! At 36 (almost 37) at 5’6". I am tired of people calling me FAT. Is this a California thing? I didn’t think it would be so superficial in SF, but evidently I was wrong. Also, I was upset because he didn’t even do an exam. I cam in complaining of a level 8 of pain, and he said it was because I was fat. Oooookay. Also, my history with male doctors in this area is horrific, at best.

In my early 20s, I had my period every day for 11 months. With incredible pain. The kind of pain that makes you pass out. The kind of pain that makes your dad carry you through LaGuardia airport to your gate because you can’t even walk. My male doctor’s diagnosis - word for word - “Hey, every woman experiences pain with a period. Suck it up.” Okay. In the mean time, I will just ruin every piece of clothing I own.

I did my own research and learned that all my symptoms were indicative of endometriosis. Male doc - oh, no. You look fine. That’s with just a pelvic. Female doc - Let’s try some oral contraceptives because this should help to regulate you out and may stop some of the bleeding and irregular growths. Bingo.

Male doc - you can’t have children because you have so much scar tissue after being raped when you were 14.

3 years ago, guess what “I” found out. That’s when I went on the Depo. And - ahhh…Immediate bliss. No periods, no cyclical chronic pain that would put me to bed for days, so nice.

I’ve had only one male doc who I had any respect for (for those women in Milwaukee, I mention Dr. Yellick with St. Mary’s on Lake Drive). While doing an exam, a polyp just happened to “fall out”. He biopsied it, and it was benign, and just a polyp. I asked him what needed to be done. He said, “Well, we can do a D&C, but you’d hate me because of the pain. So, I would suggest just leaving them until they become problematic, and then we’ll deal with them. They may cause occasional spotting, but it shouldn’t be a problem.” This was two months before my guess what I found out.

When I had my abortion (and let’s not get into that here, there are other threads discussing it, and I won’t go into it here), I explained to the doc about my polyps. he said the procedure he was doing was a D&C and it should clear out all the polyps at the same time. They gave me the Depo the same day.

I’ve been in love with the Depo ever since. Except for this latest doc. You remember, the “fatter” one? After my major upset, my BF immediately had his assistant get me into a women’s clinic with all women staffers. The lady there was phenomenal, and she was just the nurse practitioner. She spent an hour and a half talking with me about my history and my problem and my concerns and gave me a lot of different advice about procedures and solutions.

THEN SHE DID AN EXAM. WHICH SHOWED I WAS IN SEVERE PAIN IN SEVERAL LOCATIONS. She ordered a pelvic ultrasound. I got the results yesterday - cysts on my ovaries and fibroids in my uterus. Hmmm…does oral BC help with that?? The docs I see are recommending a Laparoscopically Assisted Vaginal Hysterectomy, which will leave the Ovaries intact so I won’t have to deal with HRT, but - no more pain, no more periods, no more weird things growing…no more wondering just what the hell that was that I just found coming out of me.

I KNOW IT’S GROSS! It’s also extraordinarily painful! So if you’re a man, and you’re squicked, get the fuck out. Women might get this a little better.

I am TIRED of being told by male doctors that I just need to suck it up or I am just going to be FAT. FUCK YOU WITH YOUR SPECULUMS OPENED TO THE HIGHEST DEGREEE AND ICE COLD! AND NO FUICKING LUBE!

Now look - I am not saying all male gynos are horrible, and I am sure lots of women have had extraordinary docs who have been remarkable with them. So it just must be ME and my history. Maybe I am just DYING slowly, piece by piece, and shit docs just won’t tell me. But for me, I will NEVER EVER see a male gynecologist again. Ever in my life.

They SUCK and if this turns out to be something worse than what the pelvic ultrasound initially indicated, I will SUE that male doc who didn’t even examine me. Bottom line is I’m not paying for his bullshit office appointment anyway.

You may now carry on. My ire is not abated, but I have to go lie down because ** I am in pain**.

Hobbling,

Inky

I have had good experiences with male gyns. HOWEVER - this is one area where I absolutely believe you should be able to pick which sex you like.

Good luck in finding a good female doc.

Oh my! You’ve been through so much. I hope you’ll be feeling better soon.

I don’t think 140 pounds is fat. If the Dr. phrased it the way you said, then he’s a jerk.

I will never again complain about 1-2 days of moderate monthly cramps.
Good luck to you.

That sounds like a miserable fucking experience. I’m sorry you had to deal with such a crude and uncompassionate motherfucker. I really hope you can get in somewhere soon, and that they’ll at least give you something for the pain. When I was dealing with all of my gyno stuff, the worst part was that they treated me like I was making it up and would barely treat the pain.

That said, I highly recommend the vaginal hysterectomy. It’s a beautiful thing, no scar, and no nasty hormonal effects if you are able to keep your ovaries. Do NOT let them talk you out of your ovaries.

My calculations show her to be BMI 22.5. That’s smack dab in the middle of being healthy weight. And as someone who lost a lot of weight and then gained it back fast, I can tell you that it’s not all that painful. That doc is not only an ass, he’s incompetent.

Not all male gynos are bad, but from what I’ve heard a disproportionate number of them are.

Inky: solidarity, sistah! I hope you are relieved of your pain & problems soon. I’ve had much better experiences with a female gyno (and especially my current, who does not “do” obstetrics) than with the men. I agree that they just don’t seem to take our pain seriously. A good kick in the 'nads is what a doc like yours deserve.

Gee, if we just didn’t let those stupid hysterical women become real doctors in the 1st place and made them keep to their places as nurses, this wouldn’t be a problem. I know that becuase I once had a female doctor not treat me with respect. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Ink a dink a dink, “you ignorant bitch”. It wasn’t the fact he was Male, you moron, it was the fact he gave you bad service and didn’t treat you with respect. Unless you have been living in a hobbit-hole these last half-dozen or so decades you would know this isn’t all that unusual from any Physician. The sex of the Doctor has nothing whatsoever to do with it. And, yes, I have had female Docs give me examinations for problems (nothing serious thank Prime!) “down there” and thought nothing of the fact that they were of the opposite sex. (Although I did have to admit that one was *very * good looking and a thought did breifly cross my mind…). I will note that in general Practioners trat their customer with more respect.

I am sorry you had a bad experience. But that doesn’t excuse you from writing about the single most sexist post I have read here in quite some time.

Hey Ink a dink a dink, I’m so sorry you’ve encountered this dickhead.
Don’t pay him. Show him the pelvic ultrasound. With the cysts on your ovaries and fibroids in your uturus.
I dearly hope you can sue the bastard.

You’re NOT fat and every woman feels different pains with a period.

I hope your pain will be gone soon. Have a hot water bottle?

I just so wished you could have ‘accidently’ have dropped the paperweight from his desk on his balls.

Dr. Deth, go fuck yourself. She is obviously in a lot of pain and has been treated horribly by someone who should be helping her. No, it wasn’t his male-ness that made him act like that, but a lot of women are made to feel very uncomfortable and misunderstood by male doctors. Her frustration and anger is very understandable, especially for those of us who have been in the same situation.

Give her a fucking break.

I always try to get a female gynecologist, because I’m squicked out by the idea of the doctor thinking of me in that way, much more so with a gynecologist than with a general practitioner. If I could specify “straight female or gay male”, I’d do that.

Ordinarily I would agree with you, but I don’t know any women that are impressed with male gynos. Obstetrician? No problem. But there just seems to be something about men that want to spend all day looking at women’s crotches that attracts a disproportionate number of insensitive jerks. Not all, but a whole bunch.

It’s possible that I as well as all of my female friends and acquaintances have just met up with a disproportionate number of male gyno jerks, but I don’t think so.

I remember reading an article in a magazine written by a male medical student complaining that women no longer wanted to see male gynos, and they were hurting his career prospects. I was…unsympathetic.

To the OP - sorry you had to meet up with such an asshole. I hope all your issues are resolved in the least painful way possible. Also, that someone randomly delivers a large chocolate cake to you, right now! :slight_smile:

Sorry to hear about all that, Inky. As I read your OP, I was thinking that endometrial ablation might be your solution, but it sounds like they want everything out. Good for you for not letting the first doctor bully you when you knew he wasn’t right.

Vaginal hysterectomy, eh? Can you get one of those when you’re just sick to death of everything to do with having a uterus?

I had a wonderful male OB/GYN for years, and was terribly sad when he retired.

On the other hand, I also had a male gyno who insisted that I couldn’t possibly be in pain from his rather inexpertly adminstered pap smear, as there are no nerves in the cervix. :eek:

That sucks. My wife has a great male gynecologist, but whatever. That’s a sample size of 1.

If I had some penis problem I’m not sure a female doctor would ‘get it.’ Then again, she might.

She’s also been to a general practitioner who told her she felt tired all the time because she was obese (5’5", around 125). Lots of doctors are just terrible.

A bad experience? Let’s take a closer look.
First there was Dr. Suck-It-Up - that’s one.
Then there was Dr. Of-Course-You-Don’t-Have-Endometriosis, who may have been the same as Dr. Suck-It-Up. That’s two.
Then we have Dr. You-Can’t-Get-Pregnant, number three.
And finally, the crowning touch, Dr. Shut-Up-Fatty.

Male gynos start out at a disadvantage. There’s no reason that a good one couldn’t learn to compensate for this and become an absolutely wonderful gynecologist. But it seems like a large number either don’t care to or are still working on the “kill as few patients as possible” aspect of medicine. :rolleyes:

No, sorry. I did say I was sorry she had a bad experience. And, yes, her Doctor did not treat her with the proper respect. But if I had a bad experience with a doctor-who-just-happened-to-be-female and posted here that it was all because she was female- I’d be right royally castigated for being a sexist pig. And, they’d be right. This is the SDMB, and the PIT. She doesn’t get a free ride on a blatantly sexist post just because she’s “in pain”. :dubious:

I think there’s a height requirement, too. I’ve had two male GYN’s; one was so-so, the second was absolutely brilliant, great guy, very fatherly, felt like I could tell him anything. There was just one problem-- he was about 6’5" and very burly, which meant he had freakin’ HUGE hands.

I’m not a small person; I’m 6’ tall. I still walked out of the exam room feeling like I’d been on a honeymoon with a horse. Owwww.

How about if you’d seen five female doctors and you had bad experiences with four of them? And then you put this disclaimer in your post:

Actually read the OP before you pull that hair trigger next time.

How old was this cretin? I ask because a lot of older MDs still have this notion of “female troubles” and “women problems”. Grrrr.

I have had 2 really sucky gynes–one male and one female (the female didn’t bother to warm her hands or her speculum).
For this doc to not even examine you is horribly wrong–and definetly something to complain about, formally–as in a letter to the office and/or his higher up (I think you went to some kind of clinic?).

Did. But I don’t know, dude. If I titled my PIT thread “Pitting Female Doctors” and put lines in like “I’ve had only one female doc who I had any respect for …” and "So if you’re a woman, and you’re squicked, get the fuck out. Men might get this a little better. " and “But for me, I will NEVER EVER see a female doctor again. Ever in my life.They SUCK …”, then- would you let me get away without a huge counter-PITing? I doubt it. :dubious:

I am sorry the OP had such a terrible experience. That Doctor needs a “talking to” at least. I am sorry for her pain, she doesn’t deserve it. That’s horrible. Being a type of “medical professional” myself ( I am not a real doctor), I sympathize for anyone who has been treated that way by any Medical professional- of either sex. But it doesn’t give her the right to make such a sexist post.