Pitting Steophan

I can think of one - he’s lying. Immoral, but nonetheless a logical explanation for why he won’t produce a quote.

Yeah, actually, you are. Kind of remarkably so. Your general inability to think your way from point A to point B is, perhaps, your most salient feature as a poster here. The root cause of a lot of the disagreements you get in here is that you’re genuinely too dumb to understand the arguments you find yourself in. I base this not only on arguments I’ve seen you in where I disagree with you, but also on your arguments in support of ideas I also support. Even when you reach the right conclusion, you almost invariably reach it through dumb ways.

This isn’t meant as an insult, merely a factual observation.

You posted that cite when you revived this thread. Stop the gaslighting and mind games and say what you believe about them.

Which one? This one?

If it’s that one, where did I call Rittenhouse or Zimmerman a murderer? Be specific with a quote. If it’s not that one, then which post? Cite it and quote it.

The irony of this when so much of what I’ve posted recently has been about the importance of reason over emotion… In so many cases I see people arguing that because they dislike the conclusion the reasoning must be false - I’ve certainly been that person in some cases and sometimes this site has set me straight. Unfortunately that is dying here, and emotional conclusions seem to be all that’s wanted.

Which emotions are driving you to make uncited and false claims about things I’ve said and then refuse to retract them?

Oh if you want to get into logic and reason, answer my question about Andy’s blue shirt. This will be fun.

As I said many posts ago, exactly that along with the context from the previous thread. The context being calling Zimmerman and Rittenhouse murderers despite them being found not guilty, something you agreed with in the quoted post and many others.

Glad you’ve acknowleged that I wasn’t lying, though. Now answer the question, do you think Rittenhouse and Zimmerman are murderers?

I think anyone who has read any of your posts is certainly cognizant of the irony inherent in you criticizing other posters for not employing their reason.

Quote any of this. And which previous thread? I didn’t say any of this in that post I linked to. I said nothing at all about Rittenhouse or Zimmerman in that post.

Context matters. Now answer the question. Do you believe they are murderers?

Do you believe Andy is currently wearing a blue shirt?

What context? Please be specific. Quote me and quote the supposed context. Because I didn’t say anything specific about Zimmerman or Rittenhouse on that post.

I have no beliefs about his shirt.

Ah, so you do think he’s wearing a blue shirt.

No. I’ve explained the context in great detail many times. You are supporting calling ZImmerman and Rittenhouse murderers despite them being cleared, that is the context of your post, as is clear from reading the thread it’s from. You are calling me a liar for reading and comprehending your posts, which is basically gaslighting.

Answer the question. Do you believe they are murderers?

I think nothing about his shirt. Maybe I’m unusual in this, but I don’t form mental images of people I’m talking to on the internet.

Then just come out and say he’s not wearing a blue shirt.

No you haven’t, not a single time, at least not with actual quotes and links.

Where? I made a factual assertion, that “murderer” is not just a purely legal term. I said nothing about Rittenhouse or Zimmerman, and nothing agreeing (or disagreeing) with any other claims about them.

Where are you getting this crap? And why are you refusing to provide quotes and cites?

Why would I say that? I have no idea about any of his shirts.