Pluribus (New Vince Gilligan show on AppleTV)

I don’t see how it is difficult to imagine Carol finding gas. The takeover is less than two weeks old at this point, so all of the gas in tanks at the corner gas station is just fine. The others clearly need fuel for the same reasons it was needed pre-takeover. I don’t see any reason they aren’t still running oil refineries, transport, and production.

Any station that still has power should be able to dispense gas. If Carol can’t just tap her card to activate the pump, she can probably go inside and turn on the pump.

Gas sitting in parked cars is also still just fine. Carol doesn’t seem like she’d have any ethical issues siphoning gas to refill her car. About the only technical issue I can think of is remembering to use a siphon pump or cordless drill that has a brushless motor.

Don’t forget that Vince Gilligan got his start on The X-Files so I wouldn’t be too sure he hasn’t thought about the SF elements of the story, in addition to being a character study. And hopefully he learned from Chris Carter’s mistakes to not go in without a clear idea of how things will end.

Fun Fact: Gilligan’s wife is named Holly and the name Holly often shows up in his work. One of the books Carol signed in the first episode was made out to Holly.

There is a fraction of the daily travel going on - no one is visiting friends, going to the movies, attending school, etc. the only work going on would be cleanup from the event and any required food and health and safety requirements. The lawyers, artists, teachers, structural engineers, and air traffic controllers are no longer needed.

Also, probably not living in as many locations as before. It hasn’t been addressed, but they would likely be living far more communally, with many fewer locations that need to be heated/cooled.

Yep, they’re all wandering around in orchards picking up apples off the ground.

The others seem perfectly capable of complex logistics. They consolidated food to central warehouses and came up with a method of processing it to maximize preservation and distribution. They can move people and items around the world as necessary, and have activated commercial and military drones to keep track of Carol.

I have no problem believing that the others are running all necessary industrial processes at whatever level they feel is necessary to achieve their goals. I can see Gilligan doing a 12 minute dialogue-free intro sequence with out of place people, like a uniformed delivery driver, performing the day to day operations of running a nuclear power plant. Without that sequence, it’s easy for me to imagine the others doing it out of site.

I regard the Spectator as largely a troll publication, it employs them as “journalists”, so thy are probably saying that to be controversial and get clicks. It’s also very right wing, so if there’s any non whites in it they’re probably quite angry about that too,

But the lesbians are okay…

I read that Gilligan has a roadmap for where the series will be going as well as a general idea of the ending already, so at the very least, we should avoid a Heroes or Battlestar Galactica type scenario.

The Others can’t harm Carol, but can they through inaction allow Carol to come to harm? They can’t (intentionally) harm animals, but they did simply release zoo animals without support or transporting them to suitable habitats. Presumably they did the same to domestic pets, condeming most of them to horrible stressful deaths. Could they do something similar to Carol? As long as they successfully avoid direct contact with her they should be able to avoid the effects of her rage.

The theory I’m going on is that they can’t do anything to Carol that Helen wouldn’t/couldn’t. They love Carol because Helen and thousands of her readers loved Carol. It’s the same reason they are in this food dilemma; they have to cater to the pre-existing empathy of every individual in the collective.

They said they couldn’t stop the other survivors from hurting her. They also didn’t intervene with the coyotes (unclear if they’re still monitoring her by drone).

I thought they were wolves?

They were wolves. Coyotes don’t hunt in packs - except perhaps a mating pair. And these wolves were willing to dig deep. They didn’t look like they were starving - just chalk that off to it being difficult to find emaciated wolves in Hollywood under the ASPCA’s eyes.

You’d know better than me, perhaps, what kind of roads exist outside of Paraguay’s cities. I suppose the Others could provide some P2P contact and translation, yet Manuosos needs a jet though I reckon whatever people he’d encounter would be nice and serve up cervesas, he’s gotta be a month out. Though of course we can skip ahead that far too.

Paraguay is not some kind of jungle wasteland, there are roads and infrastructure. In the 80’s we had a holiday trip with my family were we went to southern Brazil from northern Argentina and then back through Paraguay were we had some family at that point (My father’s cousin was married to a Paraguayan), the roads were pretty good IIRC.

What my wife and I were wondering is, how does he plan to cross the Darien Gap?
But getting to Colombia at least, should be no problem as long as he gets gas somehow.

Very specifically in real life hybrid wolf-dogs were used for the shoot. You can tell by both size and the more robust build, particularly the head.

Actual coyotes will run in packs occasionally, but they are very unlikely to be that confrontational with humans unless they have cubs on hand, are diseased or starving. They don’t have cubs on hand, they wouldn’t all be simultaneously terminally rabid and they wouldn’t be starving. Coyotes are not so numerous that a sudden dearth of trash cans will cause them to starve in suburbia. If anything the hoard of suddenly released pets would create a smorgasboard and they’d be waddling about fat and happy in the short term. Long term there is plenty of normal prey animals.

Starving wolves on the other hand? So Albuquerque very specifically has a captive breeding program for the endangered Mexican wolf. The Afllicted released all the zoo animals and those, not being used to hunting, might possibly be starving. It’s plausible, if a bit unlikely luck-wise they’d end up in her backyard.

I recall Ewan McGregor and a pal riding from Patagonia to California on Electric Harley Davidson’s, and that took 3 months. I don’t think they went over the Darien Gap, so perhaps they skipped it.

Yet I reckon at one of Manu’s first stops - assuming there’s restaurants or something going on, someone might suggest a jet.

Interesting. I was going to write that possibly coyotes could be made up, sorta like Pepe Le Pew becomes a cat, to look like starving wolves.

I still like that right below all the ASPCA and other location credits, it says

This show was filmed by humans

The three laws of robotics are a completely different Apple show! (I haven’t watched it, and never got to the books that unify Foundation and Robots so I don’t know if the three laws come into play in the Foundation show).

Yes, she would have been the only house with outdoor food waste in the trash.

Yet another Apple show. They took a ferry around it (maybe a plane?). I remember it was a thing, and they just handled it in a practical way.

Probably the only consumable trash anywhere since the Others are, no doubt, stockpiling anything with a calorie.

I’ve met a lot of people in Chilean Patagonia who have driven or bicycled down from North America, but they all took the ferry around the Darien Gap.

They’re mentioned, but no longer apply.