2 days before the election, so we need a thread for your predictions on the final tally of the Electoral College.
Kerry.
279-259.
I’m sure at least one doper will nail the numbers right on.
2 days before the election, so we need a thread for your predictions on the final tally of the Electoral College.
Kerry.
279-259.
I’m sure at least one doper will nail the numbers right on.
272-266
Kerry
534 Kerry
4 Bush
Good thing that ballot initiative passed in Colorado.
Ok, in all seriousness,
279 Kerry
258 Bush
1 for Richie Robb abstaining in the wake of Bush’s WV victory.
(Colorado ballot initiative doesn’t pass)
OK, I can see my thread sort of died here and has left me wondering, “Has someone already done this?”
I did a search and couldn’t find anything or maybe it’s the most dopers don’t care about the election.
269 Bush
269 Kerry
You heard it here first.
I loved the Daily Show’s ad for their election coverage:
“Watch the prelude to the recount here!”
272 Kerry
266 Bush
Recount Wednesday morning.
California secedes by Saturday.
Kerry 286
Bush 252
Kerry 271 Bush 269
294-244, Kerry. But I think the popular is going to be closer than the electoral shows.
I think Ohio, Florida and, yes, Missouri are going to be close. Missouri has a very tight gubernatorial race right now, and if things hold up weather-wise state-wide, I think the Dems will just snake the Pubs on turnout there.
C’mon people! Predict! Predict! Pull some numbers out of your ass if you’d like! (Just make sure they add up to 538)
For Kid_A,
Happy
Kerry 301
Bush 237
Actually, I think I heard it on Meet the Press first.
But I agree that’d really be a fukup.
Oh, well…I guess we can just let the S.Court pick again.
I don’t actually know. Is a tie possible?
BTW
Did I miss something or are you planning on voting more than once?
Absolutely. It would get tossed to the Republican-controlled House for the final answer.
I knew I phrased that wrong. I realize it is a mathematical possibilty. IIRC it actually occurred in 1880?
What I should have said was: With the way the states are divided (some are definitely gonna go one way or the other), considering that, is it still possible?
Maybe better said this way.
Are there enough undecided states left where a tie could result?
It’s not as easy as it sounds.
Bush 334
Kerry 206
I see what you’re saying now, t-.
Looking at www.electoral-vote.com:
If Bush and Kerry take all of their “Strong” and “Weak” states:
Bush Strong (172) + Weak (33) = 205
Kerry Strong (91) + Weak (139) = 230
And we divvy up the “Barely” and “Tied” states thusly:
Bush-- FL (27), OH (20), VA (13) and VT (4)
Kerry-- PA (21), CO (9), NM (5) and HI (4)
You get 269-269.
Sure. Not likely, but…
Kerry takes all of New England, wins big in New York (of course), and beats Bush in Jersey; loses Pennsylvania to Bush but takes surprisingly volatile Virginia in a squeaker; wins Ohio but loses in Florida; wins Michigan, squeaks by in Wisconsin, walks away easily in Illinois, beats Bush in Minnesota, wins Colorado but not New Mexico or Nevada, and cleans up nicely on the west coast. Oh, and Hawaii, as usual, goes with the Democrat despite the peculiar poll showing it up for grabs. Count 'em, that’s 269.
Bush, in addition to Pennsylvania, Florida, Colorado and Nevada, takes West Virginia, beats Kerry in Iowa and Missouri, and then cleans Kerry’s clock as expected in the south and in Indiana, and takes all of the west except New Mexico, and of course wins in Alaska. 269.
Damn. Umm, that scenario should’ve read Kerry winning in New Mexico but not Colorado or Nevada, not winning in Colorado but not New Mexico or Nevada.
Oh well, Happy Lendervedder’s scenario seems a bit more likely anyhow (assuming “VT” was intended to be “NH”; if Kerry loses Vermont, hell will be sponsoring a snowball fight later the same evening)
Thanks Hap you’re allright
I thought it might be but hadn’t really figured it. I had googled some cites since it was joked about on MTP. But the ones I found were talking about electors defecting and all kinds of bullshit. Of course if it goes to the house it should go Bush but then they were talking about if it tied there, Cheney would get to break the tie and that’s when I said…take it to the Dope.
I remember this same discussion (I think) back in 2000 when I was just a lurking little doper.
Ahh, once you get north of NY, they all look the same to me.
Off topic, have you ever noticed VT and NH appear to be engaged in a state-line 69? Cheeky little buggahs.