Poll III

  1. “Klaatu barada nikto” or “May the Force be with you”

  2. Slim Elvis or Fat Elvis
    Given that I’m not real big on Elvis’ music, drawing funny Elvis characters is about all the interest I have in him

  3. A Whiter Shade of Pale or The Dark Side of the Moon

  4. Don’t Tread On Me or One Nation Under God

  5. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?”

  6. Rule Britannia or Pomp and Circumstance
    Pomp is fun to play on a trombone

  7. Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter
    He looks less like ET

  8. Oxford or Cambridge
    Oxford University has a nice translation of The Count of Monte Cristo

  9. The Iliad or The Odyssey

  10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or “A thing must exist before it can have an identity”

  11. Edgar Alan Poe or Ralph Waldo Emerson

  12. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant)

or

“Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.” (Eddington)
I distrust anyone who uses words like “transcendental”

  1. Twenty minutes of bagpipes or Two minutes of stomach cramps
    Some of the most beautiful music is for the bagpipe

  2. Judo or Karate

  3. Bing Crosby or Patsy Cline

  4. Mr. Burns or Mr. Spacely
    The Jetsons and the Flintstones where the coffin nails in the death of the golden age of cartoons.

  5. Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela

  6. Rice or Pasta

  7. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or Chili mustard and slaw
    Neither

Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or why?

  1. “May the Force be with you”

  2. Slim Elvis

  3. Dark Side of the Moon

  4. Don’t Tread On Me (If it had been “one nation, indivisible”, I would have picked it for the unity aspect, but I couldn’t get behind the “under God” part)

  5. “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?”

  6. Rule Britannia

  7. Jimmy Carter

  8. Cambridge

  9. The Odyssey

  10. “A thing must exist before it can have an identity”

  11. Edgar Alan Poe

12.“Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.” (Eddington)

  1. Two minutes of stomach cramps

  2. Karate

  3. Patsy Cline

  4. Mr. Burns

  5. Mahatma Gandhi

  6. Rice

  7. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise

Bonus Question: Which is more important — why

  1. “Klaatu barada nikto” or “May the Force be with you”

It’s cliche, but I have to go with the Force. It’s just too iconic.

  1. Slim Elvis or Fat Elvis

Slim Elvis was important. Fat Elvis was just famous. Important is better than famous. Slim Elvis.

  1. A Whiter Shade of Pale or The Dark Side of the Moon

I’m going to go against the likely grain and pick A Whiter Shade of Pale.

  1. Don’t Tread On Me or One Nation Under God

Both stupid, but Don’t Tread on Me is cooler because it involves a snake.

  1. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?”

“Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup” is more universally understood, so better.

  1. Rule Britannia or Pomp and Circumstance

“Rule Britannia.” Sounds better.

  1. Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter

Carter seems like a nice man but he’s boring. Bill Clinton is interesting. Clinton.

  1. Oxford or Cambridge

Cambridge.

  1. The Iliad or The Odyssey

The Odyssey.

  1. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or “A thing must exist before it can have an identity”

Flip a coin… tails… the latter.

  1. Edgar Alan Poe or Ralph Waldo Emerson

Poe!

  1. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant)

or

“Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.” (Eddington)

Eddington. Succinctness is a virtue.

  1. Twenty minutes of bagpipes or Two minutes of stomach cramps

Hmmmm… I’ll take the bagpipes, but it was a close one.

  1. Judo or Karate

Judo.

  1. Bing Crosby or Patsy Cline

Patsy Cline didn’t beat up children as much, as I take her.

  1. Mr. Burns or Mr. Spacely

Mr. Burns. Excellent.

  1. Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela

Gosh, that’s tough, but I’m going with the Nelsoniac. He inspired his people AND kept a lid on what could have been an ugly transition.

  1. Rice or Pasta

Rice.

  1. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or Chili mustard and slaw

Chili with mustard? Ew. LTM.

Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or why?
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How. Why follows.

  1. “Klaatu barada nikto” or “May the Force be with you”
    May the Force Be With You

  2. Slim Elvis or Fat Elvis
    Slim

  3. A Whiter Shade of Pale or The Dark Side of the Moon
    Dark Side of the Moon

  4. Don’t Tread On Me or One Nation Under God
    Don’t Tread On Me

  5. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?”
    Waiter

  6. Rule Britannia or Pomp and Circumstance
    Rule Britannia

  7. Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter
    Slick Willy

  8. Oxford or Cambridge
    Oxford

  9. The Iliad or The Odyssey
    The Odyssey

  10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or “A thing must exist before it can have an identity”
    Must exist before it can have an identity

  11. Edgar Alan Poe or Ralph Waldo Emerson
    Poe

  12. (Kant) or (Eddington)
    Eddington

  13. Twenty minutes of bagpipes or Two minutes of stomach cramps
    Bagpipes are awesome

  14. Judo or Karate
    Judo

  15. Bing Crosby or Patsy Cline
    Bing

  16. Mr. Burns or Mr. Spacely
    Spacely!!

  17. Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela
    Gandhi

  18. Rice or Pasta
    Rice

  19. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or Chili mustard and slaw
    L/T/M
    Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or why?
    Why?

I haven’t played before, but your OP says that’s not necessary.

I haven’t read other people’s comments yet, which probably means I’ll be somewhat repetitive and unoriginal.

  1. “Klaatu barada nikto” or “May the Force be with you”
    “May the force be with you” is nobler. The other is just the source of jokes.

  2. Slim Elvis or Fat Elvis
    Slim Elvis. I prefer thinking of him at his prime.

  3. A Whiter Shade of Pale or The Dark Side of the Moon
    The Dark Side of the Moon. I’m afraid I have to confess my ignorance - I don’t recognize the first.

  4. Don’t Tread On Me or One Nation Under God
    I have to pick one? Don’t Tread on Me is less offensive.

  5. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?”
    Both jokes that haven’t been funny in decades. Um, I pick “There’s a fly in my soup.”

  6. Rule Britannia or Pomp and Circumstance
    Pomp and Circumstance. I can’t remember what Rule Britannia sounds like right now.

  7. Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter
    Jimmy Carter. He’s got a Nobel Peace Prize, after all.

  8. Oxford or Cambridge
    I don’t know the difference, I’m afraid. Cambridge.

  9. The Iliad or The Odyssey
    The Odyssey. Adventure is more interesting than war. (Not having actually read either one.)

  10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or “A thing must exist before it can have an identity”
    I don’t recognize this, so I’ll go with the one that makes more intuitive sense: Exist before Identity.

  11. Edgar Alan Poe or Ralph Waldo Emerson
    Ralph Waldo Emerson. Poe is scary and depressing.

  12. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant)

or

“Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.” (Eddington)
Kant, I guess. It sounds more interesting (I wish to subscribe to his newsletter.)

  1. Twenty minutes of bagpipes or Two minutes of stomach cramps
    :smiley: I can handle bagpipes. You just have to get yourself in the right mindset.

  2. Judo or Karate
    Karate. Because I earned my yellow belt in high school.

  3. Bing Crosby or Patsy Cline
    Patsy Cline. Bing Crosby abused his kids. (Did I just show my ignorance there?)

  4. Mr. Burns or Mr. Spacely
    Mr. Burns. He’s evil - Mr. Spacely is just petty.

  5. Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela
    Nelson Mandela. I think he’d be a more interesting person to talk to. (How’s that for an arbitrary reason to pick A or B?)

  6. Rice or Pasta
    Rice, because at least you can get brown rice. Pasta’s too refined.

  7. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or Chili mustard and slaw
    Lettuce tomato and mayo. I want some fresh veggies in my food.

Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or why?
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Definitely WHY. “How” is a straightforward question that has only one simple answer. “Why” is a question that can be answered, then asked again and answered at a different depth, then asked again. You may never finish exploring “Why.”

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  1. “Klaatu barada nikto” or “May the Force be with you”

neither.

  1. Slim Elvis or Fat Elvis

slim elvis

  1. A Whiter Shade of Pale or The Dark Side of the Moon

Oooo - tough one - Dark Side of the Moon

  1. Don’t Tread On Me or One Nation Under God

neither

  1. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?”

“Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!”

  1. Rule Britannia or Pomp and Circumstance

Popm & Circumstance

  1. Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter

Neither

  1. Oxford or Cambridge

Oxford (but only because I visited there)

  1. The Iliad or The Odyssey

The Iliad

  1. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or “A thing must exist before it can have an identity”

“A thing must have an identity before it can exist.”

  1. Edgar Alan Poe or Ralph Waldo Emerson

Poe all the way, baby.

  1. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant)

or

“Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.” (Eddington)

Humm, as much as I’m a fan of Kant, for this one I have to go with Eddington

  1. Twenty minutes of bagpipes or Two minutes of stomach cramps

Bagpipes. I like bagpipes.

  1. Judo or Karate

Karate

  1. Bing Crosby or Patsy Cline

Patsy Cline

  1. Mr. Burns or Mr. Spacely

Mr. Burns

  1. Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela

Nelson Mandela

  1. Rice or Pasta

Pasta

  1. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or Chili mustard and slaw

LTM

Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or why?

Why.

  1. “Klaatu barada nikto” or “May the Force be with you”: I don’t know what the other one means.

  2. Slim Elvis or Fat Elvis: Much more attractive

  3. A Whiter Shade of Pale or The Dark Side of the Moon: First Pink Floyd album I ever heard … aah - the memories

  4. Don’t Tread On Me or One Nation Under God: Just cooler

  5. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?”: I like the visual this one calls to mind

  6. Rule Britannia or Pomp and Circumstance: Reminds me of good times in Girl Scouts, singing “My Reindeer Flys Sideways”

  7. Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter: He was “cool”

  8. Oxford or Cambridge: No opinion

  9. The Iliad or The Odyssey: I like the faithful wife

  10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or “A thing must exist before it can have an identity”: No opinion

  11. Edgar Alan Poe or Ralph Waldo Emerson: Not nearly as dark and dreary

  12. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant)

or

“Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.” (Eddington): No opnion

  1. Twenty minutes of bagpipes or Two minutes of stomach cramps: They’re not that bad - I labored without drugs.

  2. Judo or Karate: If only for the highly inappropriate “Mexican Judo” jokes

  3. Bing Crosby or Patsy Cline: I love “Crazy”

  4. Mr. Burns or Mr. Spacely: Not nearly as evil

  5. Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela: Just because

  6. Rice or Pasta: Just because

  7. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or Chili mustard and slaw: I prefer slaw on the side.

Bonus Question: Which is more important — how or why? I’m more interested in motivations than mechanics.

1.“May the Force be with you”

  1. Slim Elvis

  2. A Whiter Shade of Pale

  3. Don’t Tread On Me

5.“Do you have Prince Albert in a can?”

  1. Rule Britannia

  2. Bill Clinton

  3. Oxford

  4. The Iliad

10.“A thing must exist before it can have an identity”

  1. Edgar Alan Poe

12.“Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.” (Eddington)

  1. Two minutes of stomach cramps

  2. Karate

  3. Patsy Cline

  4. Mr. Burns

  5. Mahatma Gandhi

  6. Pasta

19.Chili mustard and slaw

Bonus Question: why

  1. “Klaatu barada nikto” or “May the Force be with you”
    May the Force be with you

  2. Slim Elvis or Fat Elvis
    Slim Elvis

  3. A Whiter Shade of Pale or The Dark Side of the Moon
    Dark Side of the Moon

  4. Don’t Tread On Me or One Nation Under God
    Don’t Tread On Me

  5. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?”
    “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?”

  6. Rule Britannia or Pomp and Circumstance
    Pomp and Circumstance

  7. Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter
    Bill Clinton

  8. Oxford or Cambridge
    Oxford

  9. The Iliad or The Odyssey
    The Iliad

  10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or “A thing must exist before it can have an identity”
    “A thing must exist before it can have an identity”

  11. Edgar Alan Poe or Ralph Waldo Emerson
    Edgar Alan Poe

  12. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant)

or

“Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.” (Eddington)
Kant

  1. Twenty minutes of bagpipes or Two minutes of stomach cramps
    Bagpipes

  2. Judo or Karate
    Judo

  3. Bing Crosby or Patsy Cline
    Bing Crosby

  4. Mr. Burns or Mr. Spacely
    Mr. Burns

  5. Mahatma Gandhi or Nelson Mandela
    Gandhi

  6. Rice or Pasta
    Pasta

  7. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or Chili mustard and slaw
    LTM
    Bonus Question:
    Why

Question:

In your polls you don’t require people to elaborate on their choices, though you encourage them to do so. Does it matter to your results why people make the choices they do? Is a choice made from ignorance acceptable?

For example, I’m not at all knowledgeable about the martial arts. So I did some brief research on Judo and Karate in order to make my choice. From what I read about Judo, I decided that I like the philosophy and techniques a little better, so that is what I picked. However if I didn’t feel like being bothered, I could have chosen Karate merely because I like the sound of the word better. Would that have been a problem?

No, that’s not a problem. I should have spelled that out again in this OP. (I did before.) One participant in fact picked Charlotte over Atlanta from the first poll for that very reason — just liked how it sounded better. I hate to be so mysterious about the reasons for the poll, but revealing it could affect the answers, and I don’t want that to happen. I like people elaborating on their choices just because it makes for a more interesting read for everyone, including the lurkers who do not actually take the poll. Hope that answers your questions! :slight_smile:

I must confess curiosity as to where this is going too. Do you think you’ll have a big enough sample **Liberal **?

Yeah. Only two would be enough, technically. But the more there are, the more likely I’ll find what I’m hoping for. I just hope the reason isn’t a let-down for the curious among you. Like I said before, it’s completely selfish. But it still could be interesting to everyone just to know… well, just to know what I will know. :stuck_out_tongue:

Heh, fair enough. I think it is in the nature of people who post on message boards to be intrigued by polls (particularly if, like me, they don’t feel confident or informed enough to debate toe-to-toe), and yours have been more interesting than most.

strokes chin and wonders if the analysis centres on whether people add comments to their responses or not

Yes, thank you.

No. At one point, early in the conception process, I thought it would. But then I decided that any remarks could be misinterpreted on my part no matter how clear they may seem to the writer. And so I decided that I will base my evaluation strictly on the reponses in se. I designed the questions with that in mind, hoping to eliminate as much ambiguity as possible by having some choices in II related to choices in I, etc. Anyway, I’ll explain all this a few weeks (or sooner) down the road. It’ll make a lot more sense then.

  1. “May the Force be with you”

  2. Slim Elvis

  3. The Dark Side of the Moon

  4. One Nation Under God

  5. “Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!”

  6. Pomp and Circumstance

  7. Bill Clinton

  8. Oxford

  9. The Iliad

  10. “A thing must exist before it can have an identity”

  11. Edgar Alan Poe

  12. “Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.” (Eddington)

  13. Two minutes of stomach cramps

  14. Judo

  15. Patsy Cline

  16. Mr. Spacely

  17. Nelson Mandela

  18. Rice

  19. Chili mustard and slaw

Bonus Question: Which is more important — how

  1. Klaatu barada nikto” or “May the Force be with you”

  2. **Slim Elvis ** or Fat Elvis

  3. A Whiter Shade of Pale or The Dark Side of the Moon

  4. Don’t Tread On Me or One Nation Under God

  5. Waiter, there’s a fly in my soup!” or “Do you have Prince Albert in a can?”

  6. Rule Britannia or Pomp and Circumstance

  7. Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter: Neither; yuk

  8. Oxford or Cambridge: No opinion

  9. The Iliad or The Odyssey

  10. “A thing must have an identity before it can exist” or “A thing must exist before it can have an identity

  11. **Edgar Alan Poe ** or Ralph Waldo Emerson

  12. “Even the inner and sensible intuition of our mind (as object of consciousness) which is represented as being determined by the succession of different states in time, is not the self proper, as it exists in itself — that is, is not the transcendental subject — but only an appearance that has been given to the sensibility of this, to us unknown, being.” (Kant)

or

“Something unknown is doing we don’t know what.” (Eddington)
I’ll pass on these

  1. **Twenty minutes of bagpipes ** or Two minutes of stomach cramps

  2. Judo or Karate

  3. Bing Crosby or Patsy Cline

  4. **Mr. Burns ** or Mr. Spacely

  5. **Mahatma Gandhi ** or Nelson Mandela

  6. Rice or Pasta

  7. Lettuce tomato and mayonnaise or Chili mustard and slaw

Bonus Question: Which is more important — **how ** or why?