Positive Gun News of the Day

Yes of course.

The subsequent information clarifies that the robber had a gun, clearly posing a threat that justifies deadly force. I have no problem with this particular case.

However, your comment made before that information was available suggests that when someone’s “actions [are] clearly unlawful” that deadly force is automatically justified based on what we imagine they might do. Merely performing an unlawful act does not justify carrying out an immediate death sentence determined by a person whose only qualification to make that decision is that they are carrying a gun.

I appreciate that this thread is cherry-picking “good guy with a gun” anecdotes to make a point, and it does not surprise me that such cases exist. But these anecdotes are a small fraction of the tens of thousands of cases of death by gun violence each year in the U.S. and the issue persists as to what can be done to lower those numbers.

Convince these guys to not commit robbery. Find some way for them to be employed. Start some programs to that being a thief isn’t fun and not admired.

I don’t have a clue how.

No it is not justified. Definitely not.

Actually, the law says that a person is justified in using deadly force to defend themselves if they have a reasonable fear of great bodily injury or death, during the commission of a felony. CA PC 197:

Robbery is a felony. It can totally be justified based on what a person might do, as long as that imagination is reasonable.


In other news, 61-Year-Old Woman Shoots Intruder, Then Burglars Attack Her

DGU with no deaths. Here is a clear example of a person needing greater magazine capacity. Her injuries would likely be avoided if she had more rounds available. In any event, 2v1 and the 1 survived and the two were arrested.

Not a DGU, but as it’s the 4th of July today, Army Veteran Rescues Eagle Stuck In Tree

Apparently he got the go ahead from the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources to shoot the eagle free when they determined there was no safe way to attempt a rescue.

That’s good shooting.

I don’t dispute that. I was responding specifically to a post by Bullitt, which is its entirety said

Had this post instead said, “His action would clearly be interpreted as a threat to a reasonable person” then I would not have responded to it. Perhaps that was implied but I am not in the habit of making other people’s implications for them.

I think we could play the “likely” game without end. With two attackers we could also envision a situation where one attacker grabs her weapon and uses it on her, like this case.

In other news, Police: Would-be robber fatally shot during Uptown hold-up

DGU with one death. Before people in Chicago were able to obtain carry permits, these types of stories were very rare in Chicago.

Turns out that since the gunman didn’t plan to go on a shooting spree before he left home it can’t be considered a mass shooting. Ergo, no need for national coverage.

Snopes

“It took an hour and a half and 150 shots”

I’d hate to see what you consider BAD shooting.

Killing the eagle would be bad. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.

I’m pretty sure I could fire 150 rounds in an hour and a half and NOT hit an eagle.

In other news, Armed robbers surrender after Cleveland deli worker draws gun

DGU with no injuries or shots fired. I think there’s a good argument to be made about carrying on your person rather than having the firearm somewhere that it needs to be retrieved.

In other news, Wasilla man fleeing troopers confronted and shot by homeowner he shoved

DGU with no deaths. Guy couldn’t catch a break. Always nice to aid the police.

In other news, Home invasion suspect critically injured

DGU with no deaths. I’m not sure how the people were able to gain entry, but this is another example where carrying on your person may have been better.

Can you by chance explain what you mean by this? We should be carrying our guns around the house with us at all times?

With a .22 at that range and the gun was probably just a plinker rather than a match grade competition rifle. I’d classify that as well above average shooting.

You got the meaning just fine. Everyone needs to make choices for themselves about what works best for them. All choices will have a tradeoff.

An hour and a half to shoot 150 shots is good shooting? How many would be “bad” shooting? 8 hours and 1000 shots? Please :rolleyes:

Of course everyone needs to make their own choices. But you seem to insinuate that people in their own homes should be carrying their guns around with them as they are making dinner or going to the bathroom, just in case there is a home invasion. ARE you advocating that? If somebody asked you “Should I carry my gun around when I’m in my home?” would you say “Yes. Yes you should”

If you are NOT advocating that, then just say so.