Positive Gun News of the Day

Oklahoma governor vetoes gun carry bill in defeat for NRA

Gunman killed by armed bystander after injuring 2 in Oklahoma City restaurant shooting

Louie’s Grill & Bar??

WTF? It’s supposed to be Bar & Grill. Everyone knows that.

Oklahoma, they talk funny next door.

“bar & grill” 49 million hits on Google.
“grill & bar” 12 million hits on Google.

I thought it would be waaay more of a difference.

So it was not a DGU because the shooter was already done and leaving the scene, AFAWCT.

You’re certain that his mayhem was finished? And you’re certain he didn’t make a threatening move toward anyone as he left the restaurant?

No, I am not certain about anything. Details are absent and there will probably be little else written about this story. But it is not obvious that this should be called a DGU by default (“the bystander confronted the gunman”, not the opposite), or that it even qualifies as “Positive Gun News”, since the gunman was killed, making police investigation somewhat more difficult.

The bad guy was firing at people as they ran away?

If he made a threatening move towards anyone as he left the restaurant, it still wouldn’t be a DGU, as he was not stopped until after he had left the restaurant. If he had made a threat to someone, then he would have simply carried it out, as he did the other people that he shot.

The father of one of the people shot seems to think this qualifies as positive.

:smack: Walk a mile in the shoes and all that.
A bad guy down is a good thing no matter how you put letters on the event. :cool:

How do we know the guy who shot two guys at the bar wasn’t a good guy with a gun using his gun defensively against two bad guys, and then when he left the bar he was shot and killed by a bad guy with a gun?

There does seem to be a rush to anoint the survivors as the good guys. Dead men tell no tales.

No, as long as we call the dead one “the bad guy”, we can dust of our hands and call it a day. Why make things complicated?

I wondered about that. The bad guy reportedly shot at people running away. I think the police will figure that out. They don’t like citizens carrying guns around and shooting people.

Sounds like the two bystanders did a bang up job.

I have a fear of someone who doesn’t know what they are doing shooting bystanders in that kind of situation.

ISTR an incident where a hero wrestled a gun away from a bad guy just as the police were arriving and got shot for his efforts because the police saw that he was the guy with the gun.

I read of a Black guy who took a rifle away from a guy during a robbery, and he threw it over the counter. He was a prime candidate to be shot by the police.

For those too busy to click links, the shooter injured two teenage girls and an adult. It was apparently random and the attacker was definitely mentally ill. The armed citizens who shot him had an easy job identifying him as he was carrying the weapon openly and had on eye and ear protection commonly used at gun ranges. Both of them went to vehicles to retrieve their firearms and went to confront the shooter. Reportedly, they first tried to convince him to drop his weapon before shooting him.