If it’s the same text at the end of each post, it’s a signature and needs to restricted to once per thread. This includes names.
Did you report the post?
It never included them before. I’ll abide by this as of course, but I’m curious when/why was this change made. It hasn’t been this way for 9 years and about 2000+ of my previous posts.
What prompted a “no name at the end of your post” rule to be created? (Again, I can’t think of a single instance where this rule was used to stop you from signing your post with a name and not an epigraph.)
Why does signing your posts suddenly “jerkish” and needs a rule after 9 years without one?
This is a stupid rule. A very, very stupid rule which is being dragged out and dusted off now simply because of a highly vocal minority. Also, the actual rule, as written, appears to allow once per page, although once per thread is preferred. If this has changed, then the rule should be edited to reflect that.
The uproar, tempest in a teapot though it may have been, is purely political in my opinion. If Shodan had been posting from the leftward point of view, the issue would never have been raised.
I think you’ll be hard-pressed to find a definition of a signature that doesn’t include an actual signature, so yes it did include manually-typed signatures. We just haven’t enforced the rule in that manner. Now we are, which is fair to everyone and doesn’t give an exception to those who don’t include their signatures in the user profile signature field.
In what bizarro universe is this fair to the people who have inoffensively signed off their posts with their names for years? First of all, as I stated earlier, it’s a stupid rule (and you still haven’t addressed the question of why it was instated in the first place). Secondly, if you simply must have it, there’s no reason you can’t word it such that longwinded and/or obnoxious signatures are curtailed while allowing poster who simply sign their name out of habit get a pass.
Be that as it may, he started it is not a valid excuse. I don’t think anyone here is holding tightly to any moral high ground.
My understanding is that Shodan and everyone else had come to a satisfactory resolution regarding regards. Vox’s arrival appears to have touched off a powder keg and Shodan just got caught in the crossfire.
Good thing no one was claiming it is, then, huh?
And what is the point of this rule? More particularly, I have been doing it for six years and more, with nary a peep from any mod. Why now?
The usenet. One signs ones name to the post. Then one puts a "-- " after that, whereupon one puts one signature block (or “sig”). This can include a pgp encryption key, an epigram or contact info. And that fits much more closely with Dex’s earlier-quoted rule.
A sig-block is far different from signing one’s name. And 'till now, that’s always been the interpretation used.
Again, I’m not disputing your right to make this rule–you’re an admin. I accept it and will certainly follow it, but I do dispute that a rule that was never enforced or interpreted in a particular way has always been there. This is the one thing that really bothers me about SDMB moderation. Digging out and dusting off an old rule that hasn’t been applied in a given way and saying “Well, it was ALWAYS that way, we just never enforced it before” bothers me. (Yeah, yeah–I won’t let the door hit me…etc. 
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This rule (or interpretation thereof) has never existed until now and if I may make a suggestion to avoid this from turning into another thing like the recent one with Lynn–update the rules sticky with this. It’s unreasonable to expect people to stumble into page whatever of a multi-page thread to find a new rule (or new interpretation of a rule).
I’m also curious how signing one’s post falls under the “Don’t be a jerk” meta-rule that other rules stem from. Epigrams? Yeah…I get that. But why does 6 letters at the end of my post NEED a rule? I can call someone a “goat-sucking, cum-belching, gutter-slut” and it’s ok in the pit, but I can’t put “Fenris” at the end of my post in the same thread twice because all of a sudden…why? Who’s delicate sensibilities (other than Sailor’s) are being offended by 6 letters at the end of a post? To me, there’s a disconnect here.
I inferred from fisha’s comment that she thought sailor was being rude as well. Maybe she thought I was being unfair toward you and Shodan. I thought she meant that the comments you two made were ok because sailor was being rude. And I disagree with that idea.
No, they’re ok because it’s in the Pit.
Yes, thank you for reminding us of where we are. Just because you can do it, doesn’t mean you necessarily should. Speaking as someone who quite often lurks, when everyone is being rude and nasty to each other, it can be difficult to care about the outcome.
I’m not “reminding” anyone of anything. Would you have preferred it if I’d said, “No, they’re ok because of the forum we’re in?”
sailor was being rude. His problem is that he was being rude and pedantic. He was also going on and on and on about it.
QED and **Shodan **were being rude and funny.
Those two things are not equal.
InnerStickler- lighten up, tomato.
fisha
Names have been a part of signatures on Usenet for all the years I’ve posted to it, and your link does not dispute that. I’m afraid you’re never going to prevail with the argument that signing a post does not constitute a signature.
Listen, we understand–and have admitted–that this hasn’t been enforced in the past. That’s fine and we know that might confuse some people who’ve been using their names as signatures for all of these years. We’re not handing out warnings, we’re just asking that everyone who uses signatures (regardless of whether the signature is automatically filled in by the board software or manually typed) follow the same rule.
As for the point regarding announcing this: I agree. We were going to post an announcement a couple of weeks ago when this was last brought up and the rule clarified, but with the holidays and all, it was added to the to-do list and never addressed. I’ll try to get something posted by the end of this weekend.
I’ve read both of those statements in various forms many times on the SDMB. So, I guess I don’t find them funny so much as tired. But, ok. My new year’s resolution will be to be more chill.
Easy to do when it’s 20 degrees out.
Pffft, for Minnesota in the winter, that’s a heat wave.
I like Mos Def too! You have great taste in music for a conservo=guy.