Well sure. And this is going to drive more votes to Trump somehow? Exactly how is a racist attack against Harris going to be good for the Trump campaign? They already have the racists lined up.
All this kind of garbage will do is drive more (D) turnout.
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I posted this as sidenote in another thread but wanted to drop it in here.
Joe Biden not running for president again in 2024 is the right thing for the party and the country. But it is a tragedy that he did not run in 2016 because he would have not allowed Trumpism to cement itself in the first place. The wrong man in 2024 was the right person in 2016 and that is why I think it is a cruel twist. The things he needed to do in order to change the state of the race were things he used to be masterful at - which is precisely why it was obvious to me, but also very sad to understand, he simply could not do it anymore and they were just delaying the inevitable of him stepping aside.
Joe Biden as a senator was an old school retail campaigner who could deliver fiery speeches in a large hall for an hour and then spend two hours shaking hands, answering questions and generally just talking like an everyday man to everyday people. Joe Biden was a schmoozer in a way like Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton were that made him come across likeable and authentic. Joe Biden as vice president was exactly the same and his appeal to working class voters particularly those who had been drifting away from the party over cultural issues was extremely key for Barack Obama but he also connected the dots of a more inclusive and diverse country being a good thing for all Americans and living up to the ideals of the nation.
His entire career has been being at the middle of the where the party is at in that particular time. But he wasn’t just a triangulator following the consensus created by others. He had a genuine appeal to all sorts of demographics. 2020 was his last hurrah of managing a broad coalition of the entire spectrum of voting demographics to finally win the presidency he coveted for so long.
Beautiful- thanks.
Sorry if it was answered elsewhere, but does anybody know how much advance notice Harris got? From what I understand it was a very short window between his decision and the announcement.
I am looking forward to his televised statement. And I hope hes okay.
Republicans: Biden is old and senile! He needs to drop out!
Also Republicans: Biden dropped out! That’s not faaaaiiiiiir!!!
I’m sure Harris must have been in the know or inner loop of the decision process from pretty much the start.
The news people though are being told she was not. Just a few hours before. It was kept the smallest possible handful of innermost people. True or not who knows?
My sense is that he doesn’t particularly like her, never really forgiving her for the shit she went with in the ‘16 primary before she flamed, and never put her in his inner circle. I wouldn’t put it past him to have not included her in the final timing loop.
I’m suspicious about the whole story that this was a held close decision just made. It was exactly the timing many of called as the best time to do it: right after the GOP
convention. Immediately gaining possession of the news cycle.
I’m not sure where to put this as we have so many threads on this subject, but it was mentioned before in this thread and needs to be reiterated. One of many, many reasons to feel good about Biden dropping out is that Trump now has a formidable opponent, and is already making excuses to avoid debating Harris (and doing it, I might add, in his usual classy style).
Trump must not under any circumstances be allowed to weasel out of debating Harris, and if he does, the Harris campaign must absolutely make the most of how Trump’s fear is depriving the American people of a fair hearing of the two candidates.
“My debate with Crooked Joe Biden, the Worst President in the history of the United States, was slated to be broadcast on Fake News ABC, the home of George Slopadopolus, sometime in September,” Trump wrote. “Now that Joe has, not surprisingly, has quit the race, I think the Debate, with whomever the Radical Left Democrats choose, should be held on FoxNews, rather than very biased ABC. Thank you! DJT”
No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen responded, saying, “There it is.”
“Trump is already trying to back out of a debate with Kamala Harris,” the podcast added. “He’s running scared.”
The other threads that had a lot of polling info in them are closed. This seems the place for this though:
That sounds to me more like the media trying to create a story that sells, rather than any actual fact. There’s no “smallest possible handful of innermost people” that doesn’t include Harris, and if Biden always hated her, he wouldn’t have made her his VP.
I don’t think it really matters but… I see no reason either of those statements has to be true. There are plenty of examples of candidates picking running mates purely for realpolitik reasons without any particular friendship or trust.
I don’t think Harris was a particularly strong realpolitik choice, so I assume he at least liked her somewhat to pick her. He also is endorsing her, which he didn’t need to do. It is pretty rare for a VP to be in the inner circle. Biden was more the exception as VP than the rule.
I think he did need to endorse her, because the alternatives (endorsing someone else / endorsing nobody) would have guaranteed at least a few weeks of chaos at a time when the Democrats can ill afford it.
Yes, he did. Biden knows very well that failing to strongly endorse Harris would be the death-knell of her candidacy. Biden is a patriot who is well aware of the extreme hazards of a fascist administration and is doing everything he can to prevent it from happening, including abandoning his own candidacy. There is no evidence that his endorsement of Harris isn’t sincere, but it was also an absolute political necessity.
i don’t think biden is the grudge holding type.
Does Biden have a presser scheduled yet to explain this to the people face to face.
It deserves more than just a letter posted on twitter.
He needs to do this and soon. There are questions starting to bubble up that we don’t need.
I’m sure he’ll speak in the next few days, but that article cites cranks like Boebert and Greenwald, and their “concerns” are straight trolling.
In the past 24h, ActBlue has received close to $100,000,000 in donations.
I am also reading reports which say that $150,000,000 in Dem Super PAC money has been committed in the past 24 hours as well.
Don’t know if a quarter-billion represents a 24-hour record, but it’s a very nice haul.
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