Pressure point demonstration-Legit?

get lives, the only thing your video shows is a strike in the general area of a man’s throat.

Just to clarify, if you have to forcefully strike a spot, is that still considered a “pressure point” ?

I’ve seen that video before and I just watched it again several times. All I see is a stumbling dude (was he drunk to begin with?) getting absolutely clouted on the side of the head. I really could not tell if he got hit in the throat, the temple, on his ear, some special spot, whatever.

So it seems to me that video shows “Dude gets walloped on the side of his head, falls down on pavement”. I really don’t see how anyone can get anything more specific out of it than that.

You could call it that, but usually ‘pressure point’ refers to woo. Even in the Asian martial arts diagrams that purport to show the pressure points I haven’t seen a translation of text that says they are anything but locations to strike, not magic spots where you can touch someone and they fall down.

I’ll beg to differ. The brachial plexus origin (remember Frankenstein’s creature? think about the bolts in his neck - that’s the general location) is a devastating pressure point. I have been knocked down and briefly lost consciousness from a blow to the b.p. origin.

The whole concept of pressure points is to either stun the opponent, allowing you to escape, or to induce pain compliance, where you cause the person to comply with your demands, such as releasing you or getting out of a car.

Super *neat-o

  • Can you teach me ?

Uh, if you’re on the ground grappling with someone who knows even rudimentary grappling it is not possible to strike someone’s neck like that.

Sure it is. Let them leave an opening, then strike fast. You won’t get much of a window, but all but the best fighters will leave an opening. You can also create an opening, by various different methods of misdirecting their attention or shocking them with an unexpected bite, etc..

It’s useless in a fight. It’s also a nasty point to play around with. If you really want to know about it, there are books available.

I forget that I have developed the ability to track movement better than most people, through many years of practice. I think I actually see more frames per second than most people. However, if you slow the video down, you can definitely see that it’s a throat strke. It’s unmistakable if you slow it down.

Uh huh.

Well I just went back and watched it some more, ran it over and over and it’s a grainy, crappy video taken from a distance, zoomed in so that you can see the hit. I don’t know what frame rate it was shot at but I think “cruddy” is an accurate descriptor and personally I don’t see how anyone can somehow glean extra information from it beyond what’s actually visible.

I will update my original description to “Fool gets whomped on the head and drops” but anyone claiming they can tell it’s some kind of perfectly executed secret pressure point strike has got an awful lot of convincing me to do, Mad Ninja Frame Rate Skillz notwithstanding.

I’m not saying that the guy didn’t do something awesome but that video sure isn’t the evidence to use to prove it compared to showing that you can just crack somebody anywhere in the head and they will fall down hard.

I wonder how many deaths each year are caused by playing around with this nasty point? :rolleyes:

Ahh, you are able see more than is there. Now it makes more sense. :dubious:

It’s going to be a cool party trick, I can’t wait to find the book!

Just imagine all the laughs when they find the guy you just shook hands with face down in the punch bowl… :stuck_out_tongue:

So in other words you’ve never grappled. Gotcha.

Is your real name Barry Allen?

ROFL grappling is for people who’ve never practiced fighting multiple opponents. I have grappled, I wrestled 3 years in school, plus grappling in martial arts classes as well.

I don’t recommend it as a go-to for fighting. The goal is to get away, not make your opponent submit via arm-bar. Once you’re on the ground, it’s a heck of a lot harder to get away, and if you’re facing multiple opponents, the ground is not necessarily where you want to be, especially if they’re armed.

But SOME grappling training is necessary, if only to know how to deal with the inevitable idiots who fight by football-tackling you, and/or people with wrestling/grappling training.

Everything I say about martial arts, I can back up. I assure you, this is a topic where there’s a lot I know that I DON’T say, versus if I were talking about classic cars of the 1920s or European history, for example. I know dick about those topics. That’s not true for the martial arts…but hey, believe me a fool if you want.

Fortunately, you’re almost certainly far too lazy to look this up…and probably a little to cautious to actually try it on yourself or someone else.

I’ve watched the act of people striking each other literally tens of thousands of times, in streetfights, UFC fights, martial arts tournaments, martial arts classes, boxing matches, etc.. I’ve studied and taught the martial arts on and off for several decades, in several different systems.

In light of all that, I feel pretty safe in saying that this was a throat hit, and was a carotid sinus hit.

  1. The strike wasn’t really all that hard. Yes, he had his weight sunk, but he didn’t lean into it all that much.

  2. The pimp’s head didn’t snap back upon impact.

  3. the pimp dropped straight down, back, and a little to the side. You can see from the video that the normal righting reflex in the hip joint is absent during and after the fall. A simple impact-based knockdown would have the pimp landing partially on his butt and/or back, depending on the force of the hit. In addition, an impact-based knockdown that DOESN’T stun the target from sheer force is usually immediately followed by the target attempting to right himself and stand. As I noted, the righting reflex in the hip joint is absent.
    In my experience, the carotid sinus strike results in the hip joint losing the righting reflex. The arms and head maintain mobility and are under the target’s control after the hit (unless it’s hard enough to cause partial or total knockout), but the righting reflex in the hip joint is pretty much gone for several seconds. That’s what we see in the video,

  4. An experienced martial artist doesn’t chop people on the face. That’s asking for a broken pinky, if you don’t land the chop perfectly. Chops are for softer body parts, like the throat.

The anti-pimp patrol, in this case, is an experienced martial arts teacher. Therefore, I really doubt he’d go for a head chop, when the throat is right there.

OK.