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- Maybe. I dunno. Define “orgasm” and then maybe I can tell you.
- Definitely can orgasm now, by anyone’s definition.
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Only with age have I started to have the unmistakably strong rhythmic muscle contractions in the vagina and pelvic floor, most of the time, but not always, associated “waves of pleasure” and occasional ejaculate (whatever the hell it is, let’s not board that boat right now.)
If you had asked me at 25, I would have told you that not only did I have orgasms, but I had them easily and multipley. But what was happening physically back then was nothing like what happens now at 33.
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bingo. I think I was probably having some type of orgasm at age 22 or whenever, but did not recognize it as such when it occurred (which was rare, if at all) For example: it was not uncommon for me to “come” later–like 15 minutes to an hour after we had had intercourse–as in, I’d be in the car, and suddenly soaking wet and feeling something close to elation. I never met anyone who had a similar experience (still haven’t) and my 18 year old self shut up very quickly about it when I tried to discuss it with my girlfriends–none of whom had had an orgasm either (those that admitted it, anyway–there was a great deal of “I love sex so much! Chuck knows just how to please me. I come every time” which [given what I knew of Chuck and 18 year old boys] seemed unlikely at best).
I will say that direct clitoral stimulation(even by hand) only irritates me and hurts after about 15 seconds. A vibrator is a machine of torture–too fast, too “buzzy”, too inflexible, too artificial. It’s overwhelming and not in a good way, for me. I put that out there, just to show that there is variation among women (not that anyone here doubted that!). I rarely, if ever, masturbate: I cannot tickle myself either. I liken the two because I need the unpredictability of pressure, rhythm and temperature to press my buttons, so to speak–in tickling and in arousal. I have no idea if I just squicked out the thread; if so, sorry for the TMI.
A slight hijack for a question that intrigues me:
I really doubt that physiology has changed all that much in the past 30 years. I am sure that there are many, many women who have been orgasmic and/or masturbating since infancy. However, I think there are just as many young women today who do not, and I am wondering if the emphasis on sexuality today means that they are perhaps silenced?
IOW, it is presumed (or so it seems to me) that older adolescents are sexually active, assertive and knowledgeable–but what if an older adolescent is not? It is “ok” to admit that or does that set one up for disparagement or mockery? I would hope not. I guess what I’m saying is that I hope that with all the sexual freedom today (gah-even that phrase seems like something out of the 1970s), that there is freedom to not do/to not know.
I hope some of this makes sense. I am just home from a very taxing memorial service and am probably not being clear here. I am pro-sex–married, not married, hetero/homo, whatever.
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