Tim was magnificent. Now that’s how you deliver a smackdown. Ivy was actually more annoying to me than Gretchen. At least Gretchen’s won two challenges and apparently has talent to back up her ego. Ivy has done nothing impressive at all so far. Worse, she’s been catty as hell at every turn.
Very well said, Nobody.
It’s like Gretchen said and did every single thing you shouldn’t do during judges’ feedback. She was more than deserving of elimination, on the night, but as another commenter pointed out - it wasn’t gonna happen. The producers want that drama, for as long as possible.
And, the truth is, Gretchen has real talent. She just needs to take that ego of hers down about ten notches. That, and learn to be a mensch. Winning those early challenges didn’t help, of course. Will we see a chastened Gretchen next week?
Thank you.
At the end of the show her attitude seemed exactly the same to me. I don’t think we will.
The TLo recap of Gretchen’s judging
As soon as she said “we’ll go in as a united front” it was clear that she was going to turn on them so fast, it would make their heads spin. She started almost subtly by with her comments that the judges would just have to use previous weeks’ efforts to decide which designer went home (or in other words, as she’d won two challenges, it shouldn’t be her) then claiming it was wonderful, then claiming it was horrible - but not her fault, then some other excuse. She’s a “mean girl,” and it was lovely having Tim call the rest of them out for going along with it.
Well until last night, while I didn’t like Gretchen, I was giving her the benefit of the doubt that she was getting edited poorly. So I can see what you’re getting at a little, but her runway antics were pretty clear. That couldn’t have made her look bad: she WAS bad. As was said, she started off subtly trying to con the judges. She promised one thing back stage and a complete 180 on stage. When they “badgered” her for a scapegoat, she could have had integrity and said “I know that’s what you want, but we promised to stick together.” She didn’t. She said “oh boo hoo. let me show you all the hard work I did.” Everyone else kept quieter because they all promised to do so and they all enough decency to keep their promise, or at least be smart enough to know how the backpedaling would look on tv.
As to the Michael C thing, I don’t entirely get that either. My thinking today is that they thought if they had one weak outfit (his), then they would lose and someone awesomely fabulous would go home instead. Plus, most of them were control freaks. So trying so hard to get his stuff up to par made all their stuff slip in their minds (not that they had bad designs and bad execution separate from time constraints). I think they thought they’d get bonus points from the judges for not only be fabulous, but carrying someone so obviously beneath them. :rolleyes:
I think Gretchen would have gone home last night if she hadn’t won twice. I don’t think they would have kept her for drama’s sake.
And Tim was so freaking awesome. I talked back to the tv way too much that last half hour
What a fabulous train wreck!
Sweetest irony of the show: Michael C got to pick the first team member – and he chose Gretchen. Michael C may or may not have design / sewing weaknesses, but his hat dress last week was lovely and far better than anything on this week’s show.
Gretchen decided that her early wins made her Ruler of the Design Universe, but she obviously completely discounts Michael’s win.
This challenge was an ugly one. It pitted half the group against the other half in what turned out to be the worst possible way, and it turned the members of the losing group against each other. It would be fun if the next even-numbered challenge pairs members of the losing group with members of the winning group. Gretchen / Cassanova anyone?
It was awful that the judges tried to force the losing team to decide who would go home, but the judges didn’t have much else to go on.
I just want to pile on with the Ivy hatred. Her pieces were crap but she still thinks she’s the best designer there.
Aw poor Gretchen feelings were hurt by Tim. Well, suck it up. He was right you ran that train right off the tracks!
So Gretchen orchestrated the trainwreck, I noticed no one on the train was too eager to jump off though. In fact they all seemed cozy and cohesive together as it jumped the tracks. Gretchen even sacrificed a tube of lipstick to make a list so they could make sure they got all the pieces done. Guess notebooks and pencils are taboo in the apt’s. She asked for a consensus or approval at least a half dozen times and no one called her out.
And Micheal C, sorry you did not get thrown under the bus, you weren’t even in the crosswalk micheal, you were up there on the sidewalk with your back against the wall shaking in your boots.
Gretchen’s sin IMO was being a junior Tim, like a jr mod, someone who thinks they can walk in Tim’s shoes dispensing advice and criticism. But then again, most of the designers sought such advice from Gretchen.
Personally I think her designs have been meh, and Valerie’s star may be fading as well.
chela - But Tim reamed the whole team for blindly following Gretchen. So Gretchen was wrong with her…wrongness, but the team was more wrong because they should’ve questioned her self-assumed authority.
StG