You’ve been here since 2004. You’ve established an identity here. It’s not anonymous in that sense. I either say you are lying - quite possibly to yourself - or you’re insane. There’s no other way you could be so rah-rah for gay rights yet vehemently oppose the word “marriage.” You’re clinging to the last vestige of anti-gay law you can.
That would be trolling, but I think you’ve been here long enough that’s not your schtick. Why would I bother arguing with you? Because other people read this, and I do think there’s the possibility you’re lying to yourself about this gay thing.
Just to clarify, my comment went to the earliest societies, where religion had no comment on “marriage”. When the (marriage-type) “relationship” that a man and a woman were in was recognized as being distinct and different from other types of relationships. Religion then came into it an opined on that relationship.
Take your “hateful” and shove it, bigot. I hate you because you are bigoted scum defending a bigoted position, and deserve no more respect than any other bigot. You are no better than a supporter of segregation.
Down. DOWN! Sit, Manson, sit. SIT!!! That’s a good boy. What’s that? Oh, just more of your foaming at the mouth and stupid, nonsensical little barking. That’s okay, just go back to licking your ass and loving it.
I’m going to bow out of this conversation, because frankly, mhendo argues it better than I could, and because talking to people like magellan01 makes me feel slightly ill. Literally.
I’m actually beginning to think I am insane. I mean why else would I come back and have yet another discussion with so many close-minded people who feel the need to demonize when they disagree?
Disagreeing doesn’t mean close-minded. Clinging to irrational beliefs in the face of rationality is close-minded.
You think being gay is a pathology analogous to pedophiles, but for gosh sakes, we should still be treated fairly, but not equally.
You know, the more I think about it, the more I think you might be insane. If you really believe gay is a pathology, why on earth would you let us out of the prison hospital, much less allow us to have children?
That’s giving magellan01 too much credit; he’s not opposing marriage for pedophiles. Or serial killers, or rapists, or professional torturers, or genocidal dictators - just homosexuals. It makes it rather clear just how he regards them.
You see, now you’re just revealing that you’re jut a dishonest piece of shit. I responded to a question and explained how homosexuality might be narrowly classified as a pathology (which is not a word I brought into the discussion or think applies). I was very specific. You read that. But you then chose to intentionally mischaracterize my position. So, let me make this clear, you are the worst type of poster, and no doubt your lowness bleeds over into other areas of your life. You can probably hide it for a while, but you are patently dishonest and cheap. That makes you an undesirable boyfriend, girlfriend, son, daughter, mother, son, employee, teammate or friend. A despicable person. My guess is that you’re probably smart enough to hide this for a while in each of your relationships, but it will come out. Your spots will be revealed. The beauty of it is that in the back of your head you know it will come out. This is one reason you find it so easy to lie. So necessary. Put off the inevitable. But the benefits are short term. One lie will be revealed to be as such, and that one will lead to others. And then others. In the end you will be revealed to be 100% facade. And every now and then, when you’re alone, and trying to fall asleep, and can’t, you think about this. Knowing that that day will someday come. And it will.
Just as it has come today in this one small part of your existence.
Then it is a pathology ONY if one were defining “healthy human state” in referring to procreation. Otherwise, no, I don’t see it as a pathology; I don’t see it as something to be corrected.
[quote=The first MagellanI have no problem with gay couples adopting. I think—actually, I know they can provide a loving home in which to raise a child. Not to pass up the opportunity to be further insulted by some, that I think the IDEAL environment would include a married man and woman.[/QUOTE]
Just how do the parents being the same sex have a significant impact on the child? In my opinion, the impact would be about the same as one parent being somewhat lazy, or both parents working many hours, or parents running up debt, or all sorts of things.
Maybe if you kept out of the pit…
Where did he say gay people were equivalent to pedophiles?
And I note you don’t bother to defend your position of denying something to homosexuals that’s allowed to murderers and rapists and child molesters. You just whine about my supposed idiocy.
Did you type these things, or was it one of your other personalities?
I’m going to sleep just fine, and I’m not even going to explain to you how silly that latter “furtherance of the species” notion is. You really did just fall off the ignorance wagon, and smacked your head a few times on the way down the hill. And then got run over by the other stupid wagon that was following.
Nonsense, because you have presented no reasons. You have simply presented an assertion that existing customs are correct because of their existence. Dissected, this is either a circular argument or an argument from authority (depending on the precise type of dissection), neither of which holds up to logical scrutiny.
Hey, believe what you need to. Of the two of us, one supports the institutionalized enforcement of policies that make other people miserable, to no concrete benefit to anyone or anything. The other does not, and was a little mean to you on a message board.
I’ll let the reader, and ultimately history, judge which of us is the asshole.
Bricker -
Your post is reasonable, and fair. I’ll say this: I’ve been reading this message board for a long time, and reading your posts for a long time. I do not believe that you are a typical person (I mean that in a good way, by the way), and thus have a hard time extrapolating from you to a larger population.
But you know what? You’re right, and so is hawkeyeop. There are those whose minds and hearts can be changed. They number in the minority, I think, among those who oppose same-sex marriage, but they should not be dismissed as casually as I have dismissed them here. I apologize for the gross generalization.