So that’s what everyone who drowns animals does? Pretty sure they’re sometimes thrown into rivers. Maybe it’s because the corpses don’t have to be dealt with later. Maybe for other reasons. I’m just not seeing that everyone who chooses rivers over garden hoses is definitely a sadist.
Fine with me.
To me this is a whole other debate on when you bust parents and when you bust the kid.
Not an easy question.
To be honest, I didn’t really know. I am not pretending to know anything about this whole ordeal. I only got snippy with you because I think it is really stupid to say to folks who may defend a girl because they think she may be trying to dispense of sick and diseased puppies in a manner she is used to in her culture (and being used to it, a bit less solemn about it than we would be) that they may also be willing to defend a bunch of assholes who burn kitties for kicks. That was stupid to say.
But, I don’t really know anything about newborn pups. I thought I remembered reading that when they are brand new their systems aren’t fully developed or some such. And like I said, I had heard stories of puppies tails being bobbed without the puppy being numbed, and the puppies not crying in pain. But I bow to your knowledge on that. There are indeed a lot of ‘ifs’ involved with the whole ordeal, and I have no desire to pretend to know for a fact any of the underlying details.
Everyone who needs to end some puppies films it and posts it to the internet for fun? (Note how that belies claims of a poor people with no other recourse…they have video cameras and internet access.)
Even if we assume ending the puppies was a necessity would it be a job you took apparent joy in and filmed and shared with the world?
In my book that denotes sadism if you did that.
Tossing an unwanted puppy or kitten away from you into fast-moving water, dropping your unwanted domesticated pet off in the woods, or ‘exposing’ an unwanted baby to die slowly (but where you can’t see it in pain or hear it cry), seem to be almost universally preferred to more direct methods of death such as neck-snapping, skull-smashing, or drowning in a bucket.
To suggest that people using less direct, messy and violent methods of killing are ‘sadists’ that enjoy inflicting pain is ridiculous.
That’s not what I said. I said that people who throw puppies into rivers aren’t necessarily sadists.
Fine.
And filming your escapades in puppy killing means what then?
I mean why would anyone film such a thing? Going to show it at the next family outing? A tutorial to your younger siblings on how to toss puppies into a river?
Seriously. Why the hell would you film such a thing? Bad enough if it needs doing (and we are being generous assuming that it needed doing…no one but that family really knows). I guarantee you if somehow I had to kill some puppies you better not get a camera near me.
It means you’re a stupid-ass fucking teenager with bad judgment. That’s all.
I was a stupid ass fucking teenager once. Had more than my share of bad moves. Not in my worst moments, which were considerable and notable, would I film myself tossing puppies in a river.
There is stupid and the unthinkable. Apparently to these kids the unthinkable became merely stupid and therein lies the sadism.
Well, you’re a much better person than I am. No sarcasm intended.
Am I parsing this right?
I admitted to major mistakes as a kid but said someone filming me torturing animals would never happen.
I am a better person than you (per your statement) which, given the context here, means you film yourself torturing animals.
I don’t know you but I am doubting it.
Oh yeah? What about that mole you whacked?
Got me…here is me whacking some kittens.
Wow, I just watched this video, and that is all kinds of messed up. I understand that you might need to just get rid of the puppies because you couldn’t afford to keep them (although calling them “pests” might be a bit much, because I doubt they negatively affect livestock or crops).
But she was all Beaver-Cleaver-skippin’-stones with this shit. I think they fact that they are mammals bothers me a lot. Like, a little kid stepping on ants–not really sociopathic. But to relish in killing baby things that are no so different from human babies? Pretty weird. I think we’re hard-wired to respond positively to mammalian babies, especially mammalian babies of species which have been companions to man for thousands of years. It’s no coincidence that very few cultures eat dog or cat routinely, while they eat almost every other mammal they have lying around. Eating rabbit or deer? Kind of a neat rarity. But most cultures have a strong food taboo against dog for a reason–because they are fundamentally considered man’s helper/friend for most people.
Sorry if this is super rambling. Am massively sleep deprived.
No, I’ve never filmed myself throwing puppies in the river. No, I’ve never had to dispose or kill any animals myself. I can, however, imagine a set of circumstances where, as a 12-year-old, I might have done something that stupid. That’s what I’m saying.
Hi, folks!
Just wanted to chime in as someone who was born in Bosnia, and to mention a few things that, I think, are important for this discussion:
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Bosnia is not a war zone. Hasn’t been since Dayton_Agreement in December 1995.
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People there are far from poor. I live in Serbia at the moment, and folks in Bosnia are better of than people living here - my brother makes twice as much as me; he stayed there and has a high school diploma, I’m in Serbia and have a Masters degree so… yeah.
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That being said, disposing of unwanted puppies or kitties is a no- brainer here: one of my relatives here had a litter of puppies recently, so she (DISTURBING CONTENT COMING UP!!! SKIP THE PART IN ITALICS
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There are animal shelters where one could take an unwanted dog, but they are few and far behind, and leaving a dog there is too expensive (I don’t know if that’s a common practice - that one has to pay in money and food donations if they are leaving a dog in the shelter?), but it’s a rather new practice, so in the more rural areas puppies and kitties are routinely being killed.
I’m not approving of this practice, just saying that’s the way things work here…
I was agreeing with your statement and disagreeing with the PPs accused this kid of ‘sadism’. Sorry I wasn’t clear.
Considering that in poor areas of developing countries, which host the majority of the human population, dogs are working animals or pests, not pets; that in much of East Asia (including China) and varied Polynesian and South American countries, eating dogs is somewhat to very socially acceptable; and that Islam specifically considers dogs ritually unclean; I’d say that America’s puppy-worshipping tendancies are an outlier.