q. about Jimmy Carter's AWB editorial

An editorial written by former President James Carter was printed in my local paper today, and I presume around the country. In summary, Carter argues that the AWB should be reinstated. Rather than get into yet another debate on the subject, I was wondering about a single factual question, if the answer is publicly available: Did Carter compose the editorial himself, or was it ghostwritten for him and he simply signed off on it?

Average White Band?

That is odd; the AWB had all their big hits during the Ford administration.

This is consistent with Carter’s efforts to restore peace between the warring factions of Fleetwood Mac.

Which of these?
(Personally I favor bringing back the Australian Wheat Board, exp. of they make bread with their wheat.)
AWB Air Waybill (shipping)
AWB Association of Washington Business (Washington state)
AWB Australian Wheat Board
AWB Average White Band
AWB Automatic White Balance (cameras)
AWB Assault Weapons Ban
AWB A While Back
AWB Acupuncturists Without Borders
AWB Air Warfare Battlelab
AWB Artificial Water Body
AWB Administrator Work Bench
AWB Altered Wheel Base (automotive)
AWB Advance Wars Bunker (website)
AWB Afrikaanse Weerstand Beweging (Afrikaner Resistance Movement)
AWB Alert Service Bulletin
AWB Airborne Weapon Bulletin
AWB Average White Boat
AWB Advanced Wide Band (SATCOM)
AWB Authentication Word Buffer
AWB American Weather Bureau
AWB American Wind Band (Oakbrook Terrace, IL)

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/opinion/27Carter.html?_r=2&ref=opinion

I had the same question. There’s something about the wording that sounds like it was pieced together, rather than being one man’s opinion.

I hope for the sake of the esteem I usually hold Jimmy Carter in (seriously) that he did not write it, because it’s one of the most disingenuous pieces of crap I’ve read in a while. There are some key phrases which I have seen many times before, but that does not necessarily mean it was fed to him for him to sign off on - we all are influenced to some small extent by catch-phrases and slogans.

I always did like Jimmy Carter.

Not again. They are dangerous. They will leave us all to ‘Pick up the pieces.’

I guess Jimmy Carter has never heard of a .30-06. One of those will punch right through a police vest, and it’s the most common hunting cartridge in America.

AK-47s and Uzis are still quite illegal unless you have a Class 3 firearms license and I don’t think there has been even one crime committed by a holder of said license in American history.

Oh, poor Mexico. Their police and military are just paragons of virtue - if it weren’t for big bad America, they’d be safe and sound.

And why does this mean we should ban “assault weapons” specifically? And how many of those murders and suicides were committed with “assault weapons,” Jimmy?

Most of the hunters and sport shooters that I know also own AR-15s or some AK-clone. And none of them want to kill policemen or their co-workers. (Which, by the way, can be done with any gun, not just an “assault rifle.”)

Jimmy Carter is an idiot.

Argent Towers writes:

> Jimmy Carter is an idiot.

So is it your belief that anyone who disagrees with you on a significant political issue is an idiot? Seriously, what do you expect to prove with a statement like that? It’s not true in any objective sense. (If you actually think it is, let’s have both you and Carter take an I.Q. test and see who scores higher.) Other than forcing the thread into GD or Pit territory, what use is making such a statement?

I wouldn’t call Carter an idiot, but he made several factual errors and leaps of logic that were pointed out by Argent Towers. So he’s either uninformed on the issue, or else he is being deceitful.

Yes. It’s way, way more than just disagreeing with me on a political issue. It’s making absurd factual and logical errors - the kind that I would expect only from a politician.

Johnny L.A. writes:

> I wouldn’t call Carter an idiot, but he made several factual errors and leaps of
> logic that were pointed out by Argent Towers.

Then Argent Towers shouldn’t call Carter an idiot either. Calling someone an idiot because they made several factual errors and leaps of logic is going way beyond the evidence. Calling someone an idiot means that you think that they are well below average in intelligence. The fact that someone got the facts wrong and made some errors in logic is not the same thing at all. All that callling them an idiot does is push the thread into GD and Pit territory.

‘Idiot’ is a Middle English word meaning ‘an uninformed person’; from the French idiote and going back to the Greek idiōtēs: ‘layman’.

Argent Towers writes:

> It’s making absurd factual and logical errors - the kind that I would expect only
> from a politician.

Your point here is what? Do you think that some large number of politicians are well below average in intelligence? While there are a few politicians that are a little below average in intelligence, most of them are well above average. Furthermore, there are a lot of people out there who make absurd factual and logical errors, and only a few of them are politicians. What did you intend to accomplish with the statement that Carter was an idiot except to go out of your way to insult him? Why isn’t the statement that he made large factual and logical errors sufficient?

In Modern English “idiot” means that a person has a mental age below three.

You know what? I will call him whatever I want to call him. We happen to have something called the First Amendment, and I absolutely love it to death.

I think you’re reading it expecting a folksy southern accent. Jimmy Carter is way, way smarter than any of you and has been writing like a grownup since before he was president.