Question for Republicans: If Trump wins the Nomination...

Right – all those black people and other people of color supporting the Democratic party are totally dupes – it’s not like they can actually think for themselves, and support the party that they think best supports their interests, is it? That’s not possible, I suppose. No way those black people actually might have minds of their own… right?

What’s funny about that is that if African-Americans actually did make the difference in 2016 by going say, 15% for the GOP and bringing the Republicans into the White HOuse, that we’d see tons of articles about “What’s wrong with African-Americans?”

If 90% white people voted Democratic, then Hillary wins every state! What a fun game! What if aliens invaded and they were all given the vote? What do you think would be the political effect?

You are once again reaching for the crazy hypothetical thinking that it makes a good point.

In reality that was just pathetic, as the subject is Trump and him getting the nomination it is important to look at the sources the Trumpeter is relying on.

Trump is on the way of becoming the twit of the decade and the liar of it too.

And against that you come back with an “IF” about 15% of blacks would vote for him? I think evidence like this one will not be conductive to that. More will vote against Trump indeed.

Do we need a worthy, inquiring opponent? Maybe. But no, we don’t need a bunch of obstructionist dickbuckets with no more original ideas than “cut taxes, bomb some strangers, and get rid of the browns”. To summarize, screw those guys.

You should add also guys that also have no use for science. (There is indeed a lot of harm Trump would do as an anti-vaxxer and as a denier of human induced climate change)

Wait, did Trump come out solid anti-vaccination, or did he just do some dodging dance about parental choice? And why are there two “X” s in “anti-vaxx”, is that the extra sexy version?

Actually the ones that do the dodging dance about choice are called the same, they are like the creationists that demand that schools “teach the controversy”

What happens is that just as creationists can not teach religion in schools they fall back for the “teaching the controversy” with the only idea to seed doubt, besides doubts what ends up happening with the so called “choice” for parents is that many times the kids end up missing vaccines. And that is what the most radical anti-vaccine ones want anyhow.

As for the xx added to anti-vaccine, not sure, maybe because for what was explained many doctors see them as double crossers.

So yeah, not willing to give Trump the big megaphone that will tell many Americans what to do about vaccines.

Yes, something like this. Trump is a blithering, pandering idiot, bereft of ideas and incompetent to govern. Nothing could make me vote for him.

But nothing could make me vote for a Democratic candidate when I am just about comprehensively opposed to her every policy.

I’d probably write someone in and grind my teeth as Hillary took the election. What a world…

Huh, that’s funny, this guy in another thread seems to think that there are quite a lot of them. So many, in fact, that if Democrats try to reduce police brutality, it’ll cost them votes.

To be ruthlessly fair, he didn’t actually say it would cost them votes, only that it did, and huge. And he would have offered us solid citation on that if only he weren’t so darned busy!

Trump has a strategy? I’d hate to see what he’d be like without one!!

Probably to distinguish it from VAX, which nobody could possibly be “anti-” because it was so wonderful! :slight_smile:

It would also be a huge risk.

A change in strategy going into the general is not unusual for real candidates, but this would have to be so much more than that. He’s essentially appealing to the lunatic vote right now, which appears to be quite a large contingent. An appeal to the general populace would require a complete about-face, which (a) would alienate the lunatics, and (b) I think he’s congenitally incapable of doing. However much of the present antics are just an act, he truly is a shoot-from-the-hip megalomaniac with no solid policies and no personal discipline. Not to mention that thing on his head.

I have no idea what his real thinking is on this, except for the certainty that he’s figured out how he’s going to come out financially ahead no matter what, so for The Donald it’s all good, so he’ll stay in the game as long as the cards are turning up right. The fate of the country or the rubes that he’s bamboozling is the last thing on his mind.

A lot of people inside DEC were against the VAX; sadly, the writing was on the wall for 36-bit systems when none of the microprocessors coming out in the later 1970s and early 1980s were compatible with them, and then DEC mismanaged itself into irrelevance right until it was bought out by Compaq.

Lesson for the future: If you’re going to build a long-lived OS, build it on the cheap commodity hardware.

Perhaps very slightly OT for Elections, but … :slight_smile:

36-bit systems were already obsolete after both IBM with System/360 and DEC with the PDP-11 essentially standardized on byte-addressable architectures. The only people inside DEC really opposed to VAX were the lovable but aging stoners still clinging to the nostalgia of the PDP-10/DECsystem10. As far as long-lived OSs and commodity hardware, the VMS group later became just as reactionary as the PDP-10 group when asked to look at porting VMS to a RISC architecture and came up with hundreds of reasons why “it couldn’t be done” because VMS was so tightly married to the VAX architecture. There was some truth to that but in fact it could be done, and it was. OpenVMS was the premier OS for Digital’s RISC platform, Alpha.

But you’re right, Digital mismanaged itself by putting all its faith in its legacy of engineering excellence and ignoring the sea change of commoditization in networks, mid-range systems, and desktop computing.

The damage is done though. The TV ads run by liberal SuperPACs to remind everyone what a complete, utter asshole Trump is would be epic.

And that is why Hillary would win so easily against Trump. She doesn’t have to bring more voters to the table, just watch Republicans stay home in droves.

Are you actually here on a discussion about Trump saying that?

You vastly underestimate the depths of depravity to which a section of the GOP has dropped.

Heck, Trump approved of a black lives matter protester at one of his events being roughed up. Ten bucks says he’d say the same if cops did it, and twenty bucks says thousands of his supporters would tweet their agreement.

I agree. I think Hillary (or any electable candidate) beats Trump easily. My strong hope is he doesn’t get the nomination. That would be disastrous.