If I had to guess, I’d say the remaining Scum are ed (for reasons I’ve already stated), Meeko (his reasons for voting me toDay were as weak as Digger on Chronos, with the added benefit of me knowing that he’s making a weak vote on Town, and did so earlier when he voted Rysto instead of Digger, and having played Scum with him before so knowing he doesn’t quite get the whole bussing thing), and one of either Mahaloth or Skeezix, just based on voting patterns. Tom, IIRC, lambasted them both pretty heavily right before he flamed out, so I have to think there may have been some tiny bit of strategy there, to throw a Scum who was bussing him into his rants about the votes he was getting.
We’re actually in remarkable agreement, though I’d replace drain with ed, and I’d put Meeko first on the list.
Wow, I guess I was right about Tom awhile ago. I’m a bit disappointed for anyone to just quit and give up like that. I mean, I’m assuming he’s telling the truth about everything, so it’s weird to see that happen.
Tom, I never picked up that you didn’t enjoy Mafia. I thought you rather liked it. Weird.
Well. Generally, I like it until I really, really, hate it. This has been a recurring theme in pretty much every game I’ve played for more than one Day (and one game that I played for less than one Day), so, you know, on balance I think I’m happier living without it.
So those who are suspecting Meeko, you think his reaction to my un-forced mason claim was not authentic, and that he was putting strategic metagame use to the communication and playstyle challenges that usually spring up in games where he is Town?
Hey I’m stuck in a meeting. But it looks like Tom Scud thoughtfully did the dusk reveal for me. So consider it night now. I’ll post a proper dusk later. As far as I can tell, no one gets removed today, but I need to check that too.
I’ll make it super double-dog official:
Tom Scud (8): Drain Bead [del]1227 1281[/del] 1287, Mahaloth 1232, Red Skeezix 1268, Meeko 1289, special ed 1292, Rysto 1293, Cookies 1294, GuiriEnEspaña 1299
Meeko (1): Tom Scud (1264)
Drain Bead (0): [del]special ed 1225 1292[/del], [del]Meeko 1256 1289[/del]
Red Skeezix (0): [del]GuiriEnEspaña 1246 1299[/del]
Tom Scud (Assassin) is dead.
Thanks? I think?
I should not have said usually. I should have said often. I tried to choose my words carefully because I do think it can be a challenge for some people to read Meeko and it can also be a challenge to read people reading Meeko. I like challenges. They keep the game interesting.
Not in my opinion. In my experience, a town or scum meeko reacts pretty much the same to any stimulus which he finds scummy regardless of what team he is on (see me v meeko in colorless day 2 regarding peeker’s claim). The only caveat being, when he is scum he seems less likely to engage a fellow scum player.
I don’t agree. I think “any stimulus which he finds scummy” has very different connotations when you consider any perfect information that may apply. You make it sound like he is flawlessly able to compartmentalize any perfect information he might have and calibrate a perfectly weighted Townie Meeko ™ response to anything that a Townie Meeko would find suspicious. I don’t know anyone who can do that in such a flawless manner.
For better or worse, Meeko’s reaction to my claim strikes me as authentic in the sense that I don’t think he would have been able to achieve the same vibe if he trying to float those posts were he scum.
Well, wasn’t the other dead Scum George Washington? Down the way of analyzing role names lies madness in this game, I think. Not only is it damned easy to make shit up, it’s also not guaranteed that Scum are going to get evil names.
Can you point me to some specifics as to what you mean here?
They claimed George Washington, but were only revealed as “PResident”
I think what sways me to think Meeko is Scum is his “authentic” reaction to the Rysto/Oredigger counter claims. Despite all the evidence pointing to Oredigger having reason for fake claiming and Rysto having none, he voted for Rysto.
Give us some post numbers on his reactions that make you think he’s Town. What I remember from the interaction was him practically demanding a third mason claim before he’d believe anything. That strikes me as a tiny bit of Scum fishing to me.
I also think that Meeko has been a Mason enough to understand the general strategy–absent a counterclaim, Mason claims should generally be trusted. So his level of skepticism seems even more suspicious to me. Then again, he’s done some crazy shit as a Mason before, so who knows? This is why dealing with Meeko is so frustrating to me. I haven’t read the game where he supposedly got into a fight with a fellow Mason, but I’ve heard about it, and as a co-Mason with him in Cecil Pond, I was pulling my hair out when he claimed with no real pressure on him to do so.
I’m actually saying almost the exact opposite. I’m saying that Townie Meeko and Scummy Meeko find the same types of things scummy, no compartmentalization at all. After reading the post game and spoilers for colorless, I was a little shocked. He was really convinced that I was being scummy and he was scum and he knew I wasn’t scum. I agree with you that I think Meeko’s reaction to your claim was authentic, but I don’t agree with you that that makes him town. Heck, in C3 he wanted to NK the alpha wolf and he was one of the wolves, and his play was completely authentic then too.
Wow, that’s some in-depth analysis to Meeko’s gameplay. I’ve observed only one game(It hink) where he was scum and I thought his gameplay was more or less the same as any other time. He actually was less reactionary, but that is something he was working on and would not have changed if he was scum or town.
Shouldn’t the Day have started by now?
Yes. But busy times call for busy schedules.
Okay, I’m not all that busy, just distracted. I’m going to Disneyworld!
Since things like murder and lynch-mobs are terribly un-Disneylike. ShadowFacts will be handling the End of Day 6. Please send all queries and instructions to ShadowFacts.
Oh, and GuiriEnEspaña (Freemason) is dead.