Day dawns a little early to an unfortunate sight for the town:
**Rysto (Physician) **is dead.
The drama continues…
Ugh. Sorry guys; I was terrible in this game. Good luck.
NOOOOO!!!
you were supposed to protect yourself so that you could make it to 3 handed!
Oh well, honestly, it’s a gamble I might have taken myself, I suppose.
I hope he’s OK and will recover quickly.
Day One
**peekercpa **(4): [del]Zeriel 151 190[/del], [del]TexCat 314 356[/del], Chronos 360, Meeko 383, Freudian Slit 478, Mahaloth 482
**KellyCriterion ** (3): NAF1138 313, Jimmy Chitwood 484, Tom Scud 571
**Chronos ** (3): [del]storyteller0910 416 564[/del], peekercpa 450, storyteller0910 [COLOR=Black]590, MHaye [/COLOR]591
Drain Bead (2): Zeriel 560, special ed 565
TexCat (1): Red Skeezix 316, [del]Tom Scud 328 571[/del], [del]peekercpa 346 450[/del]
Oredigger77 (1): Drain Bead 347
**Red Skeezix **(1): TexCat 356, [del]Freudian Slit 364 478[/del]
**Zeriel **(1): [del]storyteller0910 564 567[/del], One And Only Wanderers 570
**Rysto **(1): GuiriEnEspaña 576
Freudian Slit (1): Rysto 577
**NAF1138 **(0): [del]One And Only Wanderers 179 288[/del], [del]KellyCriterion 242 244[/del]
**storyteller0910 **(0): [del]peekercpa 116 201[/del]
One And Only Wanderers (0): [del]Chronos 180 360[/del], [del]Jimmy Chitwood 184[/del], [del]Meeko 220 291[/del]
**Mahaloth **(0): [del]Meeko 291 298[/del]
Not Voting (2) : KellyCriterion, Oredigger77
Day Two
One And Only Wanderers (8): Jimmy Chitwood 757, Oredigger77 760, Freudian Slit 763, Mahaloth 815, GuiriEnEspaña 855, Drain Bead 865, Zeriel 874, Chronos 882
Freudian Slit (8): Rysto 655, Meeko 666, Tom Scud 783, Red Skeezix 835, special ed 861, OAOW 871, TexCat 880, MHaye 885
**Mahaloth **(1): storyteller0910 833
Jimmy Chitwood (0): [del]Oredigger 717 734[/del], [del]One And Only Wanderers 751 871[/del], [del]TexCat 795 880[/del]
Drain Bead (0): [del]Zeriel 715 874[/del]
**GuiriEnEspaña **(0): [del]Chronos 803 882[/del]
**TexCat **(0): [del]Tom Scud 706 783[/del]
Tom Scud (0): [del]Mahaloth 787 815[/del]
**Meeko **(0): [del]Freudian Slit 651 763[/del]
Day Three
**Chronos **(7): [del]special ed 924 995[/del], Red Skeezix 974, Drain Bead 984, Oredigger77 990, GuiriEnEspaña 1000, Tom Scud 1002, Rysto 1005, Jimmy Chitwood 1013
**Tom Scud **(4): Mahaloth 931, Zeriel 954, Chronos 971, ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 986, [del]Jimmy Chitwood 1004 1013[/del]
**Oredigger77 **(2): special ed 995, MHaye 1015
Jimmy Chitwood (1): TexCat 941
**TexCat **(1): [del]Tom Scud 969 1002[/del], Meeko 982
Day Four
**Oredigger77 **(10): GuiriEnEspaña 1032, TexCat 1035, special ed 1037, Drain Bead 1039, Tom Scud 1047, MHaye 1116, Rysto 1127, Mahaloth 1135, Red Skeezix 1136, Zeriel 1164
**Rysto **(2): Oredigger77 1137, Meeko 1153
Tom Scud (1): [del]Mahaloth 1031 1133[/del], ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies 1111
**ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies **(0): [del]Rysto 1028 1051[/del]
**TexCat **(0): [del]Meeko 1029 1110[/del]
Day Five(before Tom’s claim)
Drain (2): Special Ed 1225, Meeko 1256
Tom (3): Drain 1227, Mahaloth 1232, Red 1268
Red (1): Guiri 1246
Meeko (1): Tom 1264
Day 5 (after Tom’s claim)
Tom Scud (8): Drain Bead [del]1227 1281[/del] 1287, Mahaloth 1232, Red Skeezix 1268, Meeko 1289, special ed 1292, Rysto 1293, Cookies 1294, GuiriEnEspaña 1299
**Meeko **(1): Tom Scud (1264)
Drain Bead (0): [del]special ed 1225 1292[/del], [del]Meeko 1256 1289[/del]
Red Skeezix (0): [del]GuiriEnEspaña 1246 1299[/del]
Day 6
Meeko (5) - special ed 1322, Drain Bead 1326, Red Skeezix 1352, Rysto 1365, Mahaloth 1369
Drain Bead (1) - Meeko 1327
**Mahaloth (1) **- Cookies 1356
Player List:
Alive:
special ed
Red Skeezix
Mahaloth
Cookies
Drain Bead
Dead:
Oredigger
Freudian Slit
storyteller
MHaye
NAF1138
Jimmy Chitwood
One and Only Wanderers
Chronos
Zeriel
peekercpa
TexCat
Tom Scud
GuiriEnEspana
Meeko
Rysto
Best case scenario it’s 4-1
Worst case it’s 3-2.
It’s likely to be lynch or lose.
I’m going to go do some more in depth thinking, but I’m going to keep in mind my suspicion that Zeriel was Scum. If we’re extremely likely, then MHaye was Scum too, but he didn’t ping me as much as Zeriel did.
Before doing my research, I can tell you, Drain has fallen down on my list if suspects while Red and Mahaloth have risen.
I’m going to go back and look at everything from the claims to the reasons people had for voting. I suggest the rest of us do the same. We’re close to victory here.
I can’t believe we were wrong yesterDay. Obviously all of us who aren’t confirmed voted for Meeko, but why the hell would he have voted for Rysto over Oredigger?
Wow. I hope Rysto wasn’t waiting 'til 1:00 or later(before 2) to self-protect. I didn’t even know Day was starting earlier. Were we told? Doesn’t matter now, I guess.
:sigh:
So, we’re left with:
special ed - ???
Red Skeezix - ???
Mahaloth - I’m town, but for you all, it is “???”
Drain Bead - ???
Cookies - mason
I think this is right. OK, so I have little read on Red, I been reading ed as Town, and aside from some weak cases. I have little on Drain.
I hate to say it, but don’t know who to kill toDay. I agree we are most likely at Ly/Lo.
:sigh:
I have a feeling you were told in the Scum thread.
how about you? I think you’d make a good target.
Of course, you’re not sure who’d make a good target because you aren’t sure how it’s going to play out, especially since I’m not going after Drain as strongly anymore.
I have an idea for toDay. How about if the 4 of us each make the case against ourselves first, then we go and check on it and make the case against others?
Or is that going to make you sigh again?
Case against ourselves? You mean, I make the case against me, you make the case against you, and so on?
Intriguing. I’m not sure what is to be gained by me going back and reading the thread assuming myself to be Scum. Can you explain that for me?
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I’m not in the scum thread since I’m not scum.
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Are you seriously suggesting that Sach or Shadow are telling the scum the day starts early and not us, or at least Rysto(who had a Night power)? Dude, that’s stupid.
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I don’t blame you for suspecting me. I know I’m not confirmed, but were you expecting me to suggest myself for the lynch?
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Why would you ask me if it would make me “sigh” again? I love the idea of making cases against ourselves. Discuss what might look odd about ourselves and see what people have to say.
I’ll even go first
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I think the only real goof I made was when I forgot it was Cookies that we had left who had a solid mason claim. I just made a mistake and after it was pointed out, I realized what I had done. I think Drain and Ed called me out on it.
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My participation has not been super high over, especially for a few middle Days. My vote on Tom during the middle of the game was something I stuck to and while I was always looking for a better case, I didn’t see one(except when I suspected Oneandonly for his claiming he’s a good lynch). I had an early and, I think, solid vote that was later proven correct.
Well, I see the second point there ends up being defensive as well, but it is hard to critique yourself without explaining/defending.
Who’s next?
That’s a simulpost to mine, by the way.
Drain, I think the idea is just to view our faults and see what others think of them. I guess the scum might try to hide little things they did to move votes certain ways and how they guided suspicion and so forth. I rather like the idea, actually.
Vote Red
Just to get my gut on paper as of right now, definitely subject to change.
I hope he is doing well.
@Drain, I hope your husband is doing well after his surgery.
I hope you’re planning on making a case, and giving me a chance to defend myself. It’s kind of hard to address a vote with no backing explanation, unless your alleged haruspicy is your reasoning, in which case I say it’s insufficient.
As to the make the case against yourself idea, I’m not seeing it for a bunch of reasons.
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Any case that a person makes against themselves will be by definition largely uncompelling since the overriding voice will be “I’m not scum”.
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Making a case against a player who I know is town, is IMO a waste of time. I would as soon make a case against Cookies for all I think it would bring.
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This sort of behavior is begging for false-positives in the slip dept. As players re-interpret their own actions, as their memories falsely fill in gaps that seem unimportant at the time. That will lead to alleged slips and mislynches that it seems we cannot afford.
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This feels like a ploy of desperation to me. I think a scum player who pushed hard yesterday, might not want to stick their neck out making a bunch of cases on players. Let them make the cases against themselves, keep them occupied. Maybe somebody slips.
Overall, it seems like a bunch of nonsense, a ploy, or just an all around bad idea. I noticed Mahaloth is supporting it. And he is my primary candidate moving into today. That leaves an even worse taste in my mouth.
It was just idea. I’m not sure it’s a good one.
No, I’m suggesting that sach or shadow got permission from rysto and the Scum to start the Day early, therefore, they would know. It wouldn’t be fair to do so without their consent.
I meant a more in depth case. Searching through previous posts/interactions. Not just a cursory defense about things that you remember in the moment.
Oh. To be fair, the way you worded your original comment wasn’t clear. Still, I should hope all parties involved were informed, especially Rysto.
Anyway, nothing to be done about that now and little to be gained by discussing the early start. Let’s move on.
Interesting that you’re the only one coming up against the idea.
Now that everyone has chimed in, I’m thinking it is a good idea that we all go more in depth. and here’s the reasons:
- There might be slips, like Red fears.
- It will force you into defending an action you’ve taken and stating your reasoning before seeing how other people look at it.
The reason I don’t like it…I post a lot more than most, I think and I’ll have a larger task.
Interesting that (so far, Drain and Cookies have not weighed in yet, I believe) I’m the only one left who is still looking critically at what other players are posting, and not being blindly led around by someone who’s alignment I am not sure of?
Sorry, Ed. Just because you think it’s a good idea and are pushing for it, does not mean I or anyone else has to or for that matter even should follow your lead. I’d be more willing if you’d be more willing to address my points. Basically you’ve given me zero reason to just blindly trust you. I’ve been almost burned by a scummy Ed before, and I’d prefer not repeat that, thankyouverymuch.
When?