Rashida Tlaib use profanity cals for trumps impeachment

[Mr_Smashy]

@JohnT

It seems you missed my point:

A country who’s Department of Justice is a fount of lies cannot be trusted to tell us accurately what is happening at our borders.

Perhaps you ought to be more concerned about the lies than you need to be about the Mexican border.

If the choice here, as you seem to think it needs to be, is between a lying government with closed borders vs an honest government with open borders, then, living less than 100 miles from the Mexican border myself, I will take honest governments and open borders all day long.

However, that isn’t the choice as you well know.

To paraphrase the great Cecil, if we’re talking about the prices of bananas in China, I don’t care about the temperature of spit in Sumatra.

Unless you are going to tell me that DOJ and DHS are saying there are illegals coming in, when in fact there are none, then I don’t see how your comment is relevant. Is there evidence that the numbers are far off what they are reporting? If so, I would like to see a cite.

[JohnT]

LOL, DHS is shut down, the people currently working, unpaid. Don’t you remember?

What good are they doing with 90% of their workforce soon to be looking for new jobs? How many cops do you know who can go unpaid for “months” or “years”, the amount of time Trump said he will shut down the government?

But, yeah, go ahead and argue “DHS” all you want.

[Mr_Smashy]

@JohnT

LOL, DHS is shut down, the people currently working, unpaid. Don’t you remember?

What good are they doing with 90% of their workforce soon to be looking for new jobs?

You seem to be trying to change the subject.

You suggested that DHS and DOJ were drastically falsely reporting the illegals situation, when you presented your false dichotomy (honest gov/no borders vs dishonest government/border security).

Is there evidence of that?

[Tilt-A-Whirl]

I think it’s wrong to call Trump a motherfucker.

He seems to be more of a daughterfucker.

[MeanJoe]

Wasn’t there something… photos maybe… of Trump supports with t-shirts that had a pithy phrase they popularized during his election campaign. What did it say… if only I could remember… fuck something… Oh wait, I remember now.

FUCK YOUR FEELINGS.

[Procrustus]

@Mr_Smashy

Unless you’re talking about them renting a room from you, I’m pretty sure you mean border security.

As for how the wall makes us less safe - please expand on that. A wall, fence, or barrier has been down on the TJ border for years, and that’s what forces people to make dangerous trips through the AZ desert, where there is no wall (or water, or much medical attention in case something goes wrong, as we saw a week or two ago when those kids died).

Five billion may sound like a lot of money, but it’s a drop in the bucket for the Feds. And walls/fences do work - as on RCP this morning, “robust fencing made an enormous difference in stopping illegal crossings in Yuma, Ariz. The area had only about 5 miles of fencing in the mid-2000s, then saw the extent of its fencing increase 10-fold. Illegal crossings plummeted.”

Are there other things we can do? Absolutely. Overstayed visa enforcement, mandatory eVerify are places I would also address. But just because one solution doesn’t solve 100% of the problem, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do it.

1. Yes. Border.
2. So, 50 miles of fencing caused illegal crossings to plummet, but Trump needs a 40 foot wall?

Does anyone other than Trump think we need a wall? Especially if Mexico is reluctant to pay for it? Apparently not:

Donald Trump’s plan to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border did not come from security analysts following years of study or through evidence that a wall would reduce illegal immigration. Amazingly, for something so central to the current U.S. president, the wall came about as a “mnemonic device” thought up by a pair of political consultants to remind Donald Trump to talk about illegal immigration.

[JohnT]

@Mr_Smashy

You seem to be trying to change the subject.

You suggested that DHS and DOJ were drastically falsely reporting the illegals situation, when you presented your false dichotomy (honest gov/no borders vs dishonest government/border security).

Is there evidence of that?

The dichotomy was yours. Shall I quote?

Since when is protecting a country’s borders automatically xenophobia? Or are you an open borders person, that white guilt or something else says that it’s just not fair to those poor caravans to keep them out, no matter the cost to Americans.

[Mr_Smashy]

@Procrustus

1. Yes. Border.
2. So, 50 miles of fencing caused illegal crossings to plummet, but Trump needs a 40 foot wall?

Does anyone other than Trump think we need a wall? Especially if Mexico is reluctant to pay for it? Apparently not:

Regardless of where Trump got the idea, it’s pretty clear that walls do what they are supposed to do. 100% effective? No, but it definitely helps.

If you are open minded enough to want details, you might find this article of interest.

Borders and Walls: Do Barriers Deter Unauthorized Migration?

"Indeed, short sections of walls have also proved effective at decreasing movement across international borders. This was demonstrated in the 1990s on the U.S.-Mexico border when the first sections of fencing were built in El Paso and near San Diego, supported by large deployments of Border Patrol agents. In the weeks that followed, crossings in those sectors dropped to almost zero. Similarly, the construction of Hungary’s border fence in 2015 was backed up with border guards, and consequently, crossings dropped substantially.

However, in both cases fortified walls did not prevent crossings into the United States and European Union entirely, but instead shifted flows to other locations that were more remote or less fortified. In the U.S. case, as high-traffic urban routes were closed, migrants and smugglers began to cross in the remote and dangerous deserts of western Arizona."

So the failures of a wall, when they do occur, is when it isn’t comprehensive. Seems like an argument for more walls, not less.

[Mr_Smashy]

@JohnT

The dichotomy was yours. Shall I quote?

… still waiting on your cite that DHS and DOJ are way off on their reporting of illegals…

[asterion]

@Tilt-A-Whirl

I think it’s wrong to call Trump a motherfucker.

He seems to be more of a daughterfucker.

Blast you for beating me to it.

[wguy123]

@Tilt-A-Whirl

I think it’s wrong to call Trump a motherfucker.

He seems to be more of a daughterfucker.

Only 39 posts in 3 years but you make them count!

[HMS_Irruncible]

@bionic_man

What do you dopes think of this congresswoman using profanity and calling for trumps impeachment?/

I think it’s disgraceful and she should have said she was going to grab him by the pussy.

[Stranger_On_A_Train]

@wguy123

I think a lot of snowflakes got triggered and want to retreat to their safe spaces.

Anything to combat global warming; more dance videos, nursing babies on the Senate floor, and Congresspeople using profanity, llease!

@running_coach

What are we protecting the borders from? I thought we wanted cheap labor.

Cheap labor for me but not for thee. Brown people enter by the side door only.

@Tilt-A-Whirl

I think it’s wrong to call Trump a motherfucker.

He seems to be more of a daughterfucker.

He only wishes he could: “Don’t Forget: Donald Trump Wants To Bang His Daughter.”

Stranger

[ZipperJJ]

@Railer13

After all, isn’t that why so many folks voted for Trump? Because he said publicly what they were thinking privately?

That’s exactly why my dad loves the Moron. If he says a damn thing about this woman I’m going to lose it…

[RTFirefly]

@Mr_Smashy

You have unintentionally hit on another downside to illegal immigration - an influx of low-skilled workers drives down the wages of our unskilled workers; as the supply increases, prices fall. It was always thus.

@Mr_Smashy

Unless you are going to tell me that DOJ and DHS are saying there are illegals coming in, when in fact there are none, then I don’t see how your comment is relevant.

There are always some illegals coming in, of course. But as of 2016, there were 1.5 million fewer undocumented immigrants in America than there were in 2007. So overall, we don’t have an influx at all; we have an outflux.

ETA: Also, the consensus seems to be that most undocumented immigrants don’t cross the border somewhere in the desert, but enter the country legally, then overstay their visas.

[not_what_you_d_expect]

@bobot

Kevin McCarthy tried to score points on Rep. Rashida Tlaib’s use of profanity. It didn’t go well.

Kevin McCarthy tried to capitalize on Tlaib’s swear. It didn’t go well. - Vox
“Leader McCarthy, with all due respect though, the president not too long ago referred to a woman as ‘horseface,’” Durkin said, referring to a tweet Trump posted in October slamming Stormy Daniels, a woman who claims she had an affair with him and was paid to remain silent about it. “Who within your caucus called out the president for that type of language?”
McCarthy, without citing any examples, responded by saying, “I think a lot of them did.” He then walked off before reporters could ask him any follow-ups.

I think you mean Steve.

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I’m gonna start using this everywhere! thank you, Steve.

[running_coach]

@Mr_Smashy

You have unintentionally hit on another downside to illegal immigration - an influx of low-skilled workers drives down the wages of our unskilled workers; as the supply increases, prices fall. It was always thus.

GOP doctrine: That’s not a bug, that’s a feature. They loves themselves low wage workers. The lower, the better.

[Steve_MB]

I think I’ll get a string of coal instead of a string of pearls to clutch. Then I’d end up with diamonds.

[kaylasdad99]

@RTFirefly

There are always some illegals coming in, of course. But as of 2016, there were 1.5 million fewer undocumented immigrants in America than there were in 2007. So overall, we don’t have an influx at all; we have an outflux.

ETA: Also, the consensus seems to be that most undocumented immigrants don’t cross the border somewhere in the desert, but enter the country legally, then overstay their visas.

Please don’t use the word “illegal” as a noun; it’s not something that decent people do.

[elucidator]

I’m sick of all the melon-farming snakes on this martyr frocking airplane!