My God, you are just fantastically stupid.
It was “suppressed” in the way that a story that Biden once had diarrhea was suppressed. It wasn’t a story, so the media ignored it. It’s still not a story. That Hunter had a laptop isn’t a story. That a bunch of unverified, likely tampered info exists in a laptop isn’t a story. It’s still not a story, except the extent that the right wing media is obsessed with a nothing story.
How is that in any way different from what you did by digging up the Jamie Reed editorial in the first place? You searched until you found one person parroting a position you already agreed with, and presented it as evidence that mainstream medical approach to treating gender issues in children needs to be abandoned entirely, without doing any research at all to see if her claims are valid.
Well, its worth noting that my position on trans rights has existed well before the “MSM” ( 
) caught up to me. So it’s not really a case of me just going along with whatever MSNBC says. I’ve been involved in this issue for decades. None of this is “new” to me in any way. Bari Weiss, in particular, has been known for her anti-trans bias for years and years. You aren’t blowing my mind with info I’ve never been exposed to, you’re just repeating the same lies that I’ve been debunking over and over for years now.
It is, actually, a very good example of media bias, and not understanding how to recognize a reliable source of information. Unfortunately, you’re confused about who it should be an example to, because the fact that you still think there’s some sort of smoking gun related to this laptop bullshit is 100% a product of you consuming dishonest media without questioning it.
You seem to have somehow gotten the idea in your head that it’s the process of puberty itself that resolves these issues, and that by blocking puberty from happening, we’re somehow preventing the person in question from resolving their gender identity issues. It’s important to point out that this is 100% a case of you confusing correlation with causation. There’s no evidence that there’s any causal link between these two things. Blocking puberty stalls the physical maturation process, not the intellectual or emotional maturation process, which are the things we’re waiting on before allowing permanent treatments.
Let’s not ignore this in our frenzy to deny attempt to not piss ourselves over the scandal that (isn’t covered but everyone knows about) is Biden’s Laptop!
Here’s two. Both put the number at about 80%.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2021.632784/full
I agree, that’s a great example of your gullibility.
Well, we already know about Frontiers, so I checked out the front page of Ben Shapiro’s The Daily Wire…and the rag is pretty much what you would expect: The Daily Wire
What about Hillary’s buttery males? Or Obama’s tan suit? Why does the MSM always hide The Truth?
It was not suppressed by the media. It was catapulted into the stratosphere and shoved into everyone’s face over and over and over again by the media.
We are still talking about it today, it’s a topic that is instantly recognizable with two words to anyone who follows American politics, and you are going to suggest that the story was “suppressed by the entire media”? The reality is that it has been given approximately 100,000x the air time it deserved.
I found cite that supports I was making. Given it’s a minority opinion, they are harder to find via google. You know this. What you tried to do is debunk it, because it doesn’t fit with what you want to be true. Did you even read the article. Somehow I think not. Too bad. I was interested in what you thought about IT. Not how a hostile source would attempt to “debunk” it.
I don’t begrudge you your position. I know nothing of Weiss’s anti-trans bias. But without looking into it I don’t think I’m going too far out on a limb saying that I doubt the is anti-trans. Probably more anti- your position on trans.
Weather is is a smoking gun for something is a different point. The fact is that it was intentionally and effectively buried. And if it was not such a big deal, why go to the pains of burying it, even on social media— and even as far as The NY Post’s own page?!!! There was a time when progressives would have had a problem with that. Sadly, those days are long gone.
I don’t think that’s right. It appears that puberty itself does fix the dysphoria. I don’t know to what degree puberty affects mental processes, but maybe it’s combination of being able to mature physically due to the hormones and mentally because you’re buying time, so you have an 18 year old making a decision rather than a 13 year old. I assume you’d agree that the former should be trusted to make better decisions than the latter.
Working from a position of outright ignorance? That does seem to be your thing.
You’re too predictably dopey. The article is about the opinions of Dr. Riittakerttu Kaltiala, the chief psychiatrist at Tampere University, Finland’s largest pediatric gender clinic. Are you afraid you’ll learn something? Or do you think your head will explode when someone who knows a million times more than you about the subject says things your close little mind doesn’t like?
When he posts sometimes it reminds me of this scene: 1959-07-22: Your Stupid Minds (Plan 9) - YouTube
Michael Bender at the WSJ declined to report on it because he wasn’t given access to the entire contents of the laptop. He met with the operatives that were running the story and all the would give him was the selected e-mails that backed up their narrative. Other news outlets, including Fox, declined to report on it for the same reasons.
And that is still going on, because news outlets other than the NY Post haven’t been given access to the full contents of the laptop. For example, the Post has pushed the narrative that the e-mail that asks about holding back 10% for the Big Guy is a reference to Joe Biden, put they have never published the responses to that e-mail. Since the contracts were signed three days later without anyone holding back 10% for anyone, I think that would be critical information and I suspect it’s because the responses would show that the Big Guy is someone other than Joe Biden.
All the breathless “revelations” published by the NY Post show is that Joe Biden was aware that his son was involved in business, and that he occasionally met and greeted some of his son’s business partners in social situations. Not to mention that I haven’t seen anything that indicates that Hunter Biden’s business deals were anything but are normal and legal investment banking stuff. It’s easy to convince unsophisticated rubes that finding investors for business deals in exchange for a fee or commission is unsavory, but it’s not. It’s the definition of investment banking.
Checks forum…
No it fucking doesn’t. That’s a dishonest lie. Do you know anyone with gender dysphoria? Have you talked to anyone who knows anyone with gender dysphoria? Jesus fucking Christ on a stick.
For a great many people, puberty exacerbates gender dysphoria, and that’s when they start thinking about killing themselves. Puberty is a nightmare for the typical trans kid, and it damages their body in ways that are very hard or impossible to repair.
As for chemotherapy, it’s not close to black and white. I have a close friend who had Hodgkin’s disease as a young adult. In the process of scanning her, her doctors found that she also had an adrenal tumor. The doctor who found it, and the first team of doctors she consulted with recommended aggressive treatment for the adrenal tumor. Chemotherapy with horrible side effects. Side effects much worse than a small penis. But they thought the adrenal tumor would kill her.
Fortunately for my friend, she consulted with other doctors who convinced her to “wait and see”. It’s now 40 years later, and that tumor never hurt her. If she’d had the aggressive chemotherapy, there’s a good chance she’d be dead by now from the fucking chemotherapy. Which, mind you, would have been worth it if the tumor had been aggressive, because if it had been what her first doctors thought, it would have killed her in 1-3 years.
It wasn’t even additional information that led to the change in medical decision. It was just that the second doctor gave better advice. Maybe he was just lucky to be right.
But this idea that a medical intervention must have a 99+% chance of being right or it should be banned? That would outlaw basically all of modern medicine. Hip replacements don’t have a 99% success rate. (Google says about 95%.) Cataract surgery leaves some patients worse off then before they had it. Holy fucking shit, liposuction is legal, and it’s never medically necessary and kills 1/5000 people who do it (based on another quick Google search. But i stand by “it’s high enough that i was scared away when i considered it.”)
I don’t think liposuction is likely to be appropriate for kids. I don’t think bottom surgery is likely to be appropriate for kids, either. But hormone blockers? They are safer than an awful lot of medical procedures with a lower success rate.
I’m pretty sure you are. You REALLY ought to do some research about medicine in general. And then consider just how oppressive you think the state should be in dictating the medical care available to Americans.
I did, in fact, read the article. It contained a bunch of allegations from a single person, with no evidence or other corroboration for their claims. Did you read the article I posted? It talked to several people, including employees and parents of patients, and examined the clinics official policies, and couldn’t find anyone able to corroborate Reed’s accusations.
Why should I trust your cite more than mine? Why are you trusting your cite more than mine?
What’s your evidence for that claim?
So, it’s not a good comparison because it’s similar? Puberty blockers are also recommended to save someone’s life. Granted, the condition that puberty blockers are recommended for have a lower lethality rate than, say, leukemia… But they also have much, much milder side effects.
And if parents should be allowed to weigh the benefits and risks of chemotherapy, and decide on behalf of their children (because that’s what parents do) whether the benefits outweigh the risks, why shouldn’t they be allowed to go through the same process for other medical conditions? Do you not support the rights of parents?
That was funny.
By the way, there are gay adults who suffer gender dysphoria because being gay is transgressive of their assigned gender role. Gender dysphoria is a much broader category than “trans”. Kids with gender dysphoria shouldn’t be willy-nilly put on puberty blockers. They should get appropriate medical care, including therapy to understand the source of their dysphoria, so it can be treated appropriately. This is where doctors and parents can be helpful.
Also, I’ll tell you a secret. In my heart of hearts, i believe that a lot of trans kids wouldn’t need medical treatment at all if our society weren’t so fucked up and so enamoured of the gender binary. I think if parents and teachers and peers accepted kids where they are, instead of making them feel that they don’t fit, a lot of trans kids would survive puberty without being psychologically messed up by it. But that’s not where we are. And kids need to survive in the world that exists, not in the world that i might wish existed.