Robert Burns - Scottish Poet

Many moons ago I read a poem which was attributed to Robert Burns but I have been unable to find it again.

The poem was about an occasion when Burns was drinking in a tavern in Carlisle and his horse was impounded. (They’d find some way to wheel-clamp it now.)

The poem was addressed to his horse (a mare) and consoles her by assuring her that she’ll still be a horse when he (the Mayor of Carlisle - responsible for the horse pound) was “nae mair.” (A play on Mayor and mare.)

Does this ring a bell with anyone?

Well, I search Google and find this which purports to list animal poems by Burns.

There is one poem concerning a mare, but this poem is not the one you remember, as the Carlisle Mayor does not feature in the work.

Are you sure your poem is written by Burns?

As I said I read this some time (50 years) ago so Nostradamus is in order to question my memory.

I have drank in this Carlisle tavern once frequented by Burns (I think they called it “The Malt Shovel.”) and the walls were adorned with snippets by and about Burns.

Perhaps Burns horse was impounded and a “Malt Shovel” wit had written these lines anonymously which I wrongly assumed to be by Burns.

I do remember, but writing the dialect is difficult, that he consoled his horse by saying “tak thee nae care, thou’lt still be a horse when he’s nae mayor.”

Play on mare, mayor and more.(mair)

Of course not everything Burns wrote was published. He was a saucy chap and he wrote some saucy stuff!

I found mention of a letter he wrote about his mare (but not a poem), while he was in Carlisle. I couldn’t find the full text of the letter. http://www.robertburns.org/encyclopedia/Carlisle.196.html

Reference to a possible reason for the mare’s impoundment may be found at http://www.robertburns.org/aulda/cgi/readback2.cgi?message=819

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No, Qis. But I reckon he had many a drunken walk home! So’ve I for that matter.

It’s about his mare, Jennie Geddes, “trespassing” in a public park which may have been the reason for the animal’s impoundment.

The tragic events of this week, and the thought of some self-congratulating terrorist leader somewhere out there, put me in mind of this Burns’ verse:

“Ye hypocrites! are these your pranks?
To murder men and give God thanks!
Desist, for shame!—proceed no further;
God won’t accept your thanks for murder.”

I’m assuming copyright is long since passed

http://www.robertburns.org/works/142.html
Epistle To Major Logan

1786
Type: Epistle
Tune:

Epistle To Major Logan

Hail, thairm-inspirin’, rattlin’ Willie!
Tho’ fortune’s road be rough an’ hilly
To every fiddling, rhyming billie,
We never heed,
But take it like the unback’d filly,
Proud o’ her speed.

When, idly goavin’, whiles we saunter,
Yirr! fancy barks, awa we canter,
Up hill, down brae, till some mischanter,
Some black bog-hole,
Arrests us; then the scathe an’ banter
We’re forced to thole.

Hale be your heart! hale be your fiddle!
Lang may your elbuck jink and diddle,
To cheer you through the weary widdle
O’ this wild warl’.
Until you on a crummock driddle,
A grey hair’d carl.

Come wealth, come poortith, late or soon,
Heaven send your heart-strings aye in tune,
And screw your temper-pins aboon
A fifth or mair
The melancholious, lazy croon
O’ cankrie care.

May still your life from day to day,
Nae “lente largo” in the play,
But “allegretto forte” gay,
Harmonious flow,
A sweeping, kindling, bauld strathspey-
Encore! Bravo!

A blessing on the cheery gang
Wha dearly like a jig or sang,
An’ never think o’ right an’ wrang
By square an’ rule,
But, as the clegs o’ feeling stang,
Are wise or fool.

My hand-waled curse keep hard in chase
The harpy, hoodock, purse-proud race,
Wha count on poortith as disgrace;
Their tuneless hearts,
May fireside discords jar a base
To a’ their parts.

But come, your hand, my careless brither,
I’ th’ ither warl’, if there’s anither,
An’ that there is, I’ve little swither
About the matter;
We, cheek for chow, shall jog thegither,
I’se ne’er bid better.

We’ve faults and failings-granted clearly,
We’re frail backsliding mortals merely,
Eve’s bonie squad, priests wyte them sheerly
For our grand fa’;
But still, but still, I like them dearly-
God bless them a’!

Ochone for poor Castalian drinkers,
When they fa’ foul o’ earthly jinkers!
The witching, curs’d, delicious blinkers
Hae put me hyte,
And gart me weet my waukrife winkers,
Wi’ girnin’spite.

By by yon moon!-and that’s high swearin-
An’ every star within my hearin!
An’ by her een wha was a dear ane!
I’ll ne’er forget;
I hope to gie the jads a clearin
In fair play yet.

My loss I mourn, but not repent it;
I’ll seek my pursie whare I tint it;
Ance to the Indies I were wonted,
Some cantraip hour
By some sweet elf I’ll yet be dinted;
Then vive l’amour!

Faites mes baissemains respectueuses,
To sentimental sister Susie,
And honest Lucky; no to roose you,
Ye may be proud,
That sic a couple Fate allows ye,
To grace your blood.

Nae mair at present can I measure,
An’ trowth my rhymin ware’s nae treasure;
But when in Ayr, some half-hour’s leisure,
Be’t light, be’t dark,
Sir Bard will do himself the pleasure
To call at Park.

Robert Burns.
Mossgiel, 30th October, 1786.

I am no literary critic astro so I am wondering if you could point out the reference to the mayor.

Sorry. In re-reading it more carefully it’s apparently not the right one.

So, I call the Malt Shovel at The Rickergate in Carlisle just now and I speak to a woman who is the mother of the current licensee.

The Malt Shovel is now a night club, or some such, and I am told that Robbie Burns once stays there, and that is all she knows.

But, I am beaten to my enquiry by someone else who has already called with exactly the same question about the impounded horse and the Mayor of Carlisle!

No stone is left unturned in the thirst for the truth around here, that is for sure.

A certain person could, for some reason, never remember the name of the Scottish Poet “Bobby” Burns. A friend of his says, “Oh, it’s easy! I just think of a London policeman on fire!”

“I tried that,” said the first, “But when I did, the name I remembered was ‘Robert Browning’.”
:smiley:

Nostradamus.

'twas me who beat you to the “Malt Shovel.” (As you say the “Malt Shovel” of today is not the same “Malt Shovel” I knew fifty years ago. It was then a typical working class pub but not the “spit and sawdust” type of boozer. It was then part of the State Management Scheme when all the pubs in Carlisle were under the Home Office. The subject almost warrants discussion under a New Thread!)
Anyway,I most certainly did read this snatch about the impounded horse and I’m almost sure that I read it at “The Malt Shovel.”

Perhaps a local wit, knowing the story, wrote the lines which adorned the wall of the bar.

Or, perhaps Burns DID write the lines while he was still staying at “The Malt Shovel” and while still indignant about the impoundment of his mare. I feel sure that he would have been moved to write SOMETHING.

As previously remarked not everything he penned was published.

What thinkest thou, Nostradamus?

I think, toscar, that you really wish to get to the bottom of this matter. And now, so do I!

When I have the time, I will get hold of a few telephone numbers (Burns societies, groups etc) and make a few enquiries.

Unless you have done this already!

Nostradamus
As our effort already have been duplicated please note that I have written to Readers Letters of The Cumberland News.
If this elicits any further information I’ll keep you posted.

Thanks Bibliophage. You pointed me in the right direction for further information.

Thanks Nostadamus. You spurred me on to get there before you! (And thanks to johnayrshire.) I’ll now try to get the brief account and circumstances of the verse. Unless you beat me to it. Go on.

Dubious and Spurious Works
Posted by johnayrshire on 20/9/2001 16:19 GMT:

…the whole verse is
" Was e’re puir poet sae befitted,
The maister drunk - the horse committed;
Puir harmless beast! tak thee nae care,
Thou’lt be a horse when he’s nae mair."
A brief account of the circumstances and the verse are in Appendix B (Dubious and Spurious Works) of Burns A-Z by James A Mackay.
The concensus of opinion is that it is not by Burns mainly because his journal covering his visit to Carlisle in 1787 is very detailed but makes no mention of such an incident.
I would have preferred to provide more pleasing info J but I hope this helps,
yours,
johnayrshire.

A fine result, toscar.

I didn’t find the time to check this out myself but you have your answer, and my curiosity is satisfied.

I hope the answer to your next question, should there be one, is more readily available. :slight_smile: