Well, they did let Rush in, too.
From your lips to the ears of the gods.
Wow. That is just amazingly incorrect on a number of levels. Not just because she’s gay 
If you get a chance, do some homework on her - founding the Runaways, forming the Blackhearts and being a HUGE, HUGE influence as the Godmother of the Riot Grrrl bands that came after her.
I’m generally dodgy on the whole ‘but they were influential’ argument for the RnRHOF just as I am for the baseball HoF arguments of the ‘but he had the intangibles’ argument that puts a million Yankees in. It’s why I’m skeptical about a lot of critics darlings bands.
But Joan Jett is a true pioneer. She took the game on in her own way and without her we wouldn’t have a whole slew of women in music who were able to do it how they wanted. And she was a hell of a lot more punk than Lou Reed could ever have wet dreams about being.
Joan’s short video for Bad Reputation.
I’m astonished that Bill Withers got in. Still not sure he should, but there’s hardly a better soul singer ever created.
Had to post this - JJ’s cover of The Sweet’s song A.C.D.C. off of their album Desolation Boulevard (god I love that album - Pat Benatar covered No You Don’t off of it, and it has Fox on the Run AND Ballroom Blitz on it!!! (well, the U.S. version does))
And the video features Carmen Electra - nice.
Damn JJ is a badass.
Damn straight Desolation Blvd is one of the best albums of the 70s. It should’ve been mandatory if a band wanted to play on stage.
I’m telling you, they do these things just to mess with me.
Joan Jett can’t sing and neither could Lou Reed. If Jett never got famous, all that pioneer cred could stay with Chrissie Hynde, where it belongs. Stevie Ray Vaughan had one song, it was a good song and it became every song he ever produced. Green Day…aw fuck it, it’s all just barrel scraping at this point.
Exactly.
Mephistophelese (sp) is not your name
I know what you’re up to just the same.
Obviously somebody is trying to poison his well.
Amazingly ironic: you left out the “Rock and Roll” from the Hall of Fame. Just like the Hall of Fame.
The so-called RRHOF has been a joke from the start. I’m too lazy/disgusted with them to check, but, I’d be willing to be that there is more hip-hop/jazz/easy listening/soul/non-rock than there are rock and roll members.
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I guess I don’t know what you mean by “sing”.
I’m just glad that the majority of the people posting to this thread have no power or influence over who gets nominated/inducted and who doesn’t.
Ehhh, our RRHOF would end up as just as big of a travesty to the ears of others, I’m sure.
Well, I’m trying, but no apparent interest…
Oh, I fully agree that nobody would want to visit a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame where all of the inductees were favorites of mine!
I love numerous artists whom I would never vote for. As I see it, a worthy inducteee should be either VERY popular or VERY influential, and should have a body of work that remains popular to this day. That means I’d HAVE to vote for numerous artists I don’t particularly like (Madonna, e.g.) and I’d have to shun many artists I love (Blue Oyster Cult).
Among the artists I love who are NOT in the Hall of Fame but who strike me as slam dunks:
Deep Purple
The Moody Blues
Yes
But there are MANY acts I like who aren’t in the Hall of Fame and PROBABLY shouldn’t be. It ticks me off that Deep Purple isn’t in the Hall of Fame… but I can see why Boston isn’t. I love the Cars, and would like to see them in the Hall of Fame… but it doesn’t seem like a travesty to me that they aren’t.
Not all of the acts I consider slam dunks are among my favorite bands. Worthy acts I don’t particularly like?
Chicago. They were probably the most popular American band of the 70s. They still have numerous songs getting radio airplay. Why weren’t they inducted ages ago?
Joan Jett is one of those borderline cases, to me. I don’t own any of her records, but she’s a decent pick. But if her name were Joe Jett, let’s be real: there is no way she’d have been elected.
True story: My uncle is a big jazzy prog fan, and went to see Jeff Beck open for SRV once. He said after the great show Beck put on, he couldn’t sit and listen to a bunch of cliched blues licks, and walked out. :smack:
To this teenager who was really into Stevie Ray at the time, and to whom my uncle was a musical hero (he has close up pictures he personally took of the Beatles, Grateful Dead, Rolling Stones, etc in their prime), I was crushed. “You WALKED OUT on Stevie Ray Vaughan???” I still shake my head thinking about it.
Even here in Austin, SRV wasn’t universally loved or admired.
I myself was only a tepid fan. But I knew a lot of people who made fun of his “diddle diddle diddle wheeeeeee” guitar style.
Once again, Sonic Youth doesn’t even get nominated. That’s a huge snub for the primary pioneers of noise rock. One of the key punk pioneers, the Sex Pistols, got inducted despite only one album.
The continued snub of The Flaming Lips is also baffling. Has there been a more pioneering psychedelic band in the past 30 years?
Todd Rundgren, Deep Purple, Moody Blues, Yes, NIN, The Cure, The Smiths, Pixies, Phish, Primus, and Dinosaur Jr. among others should also be in IMO.
I remember being in shock during the late 90s and early 00s that Black Sabbath were not in the HoF, but the snub finally ended in 2006. They had been eligible since 1995. The Ventures were way overdue as well until their 2008 induction.
FWIW, Green Day has sold over 75 million albums, which is a distinct achievement in any era of rock music but especially in the 1990-2014 time frame. Their punk opera American Idiot is considered by many to be among the best albums of the 00s decade. Personally, I may prefer the sound of other punk rock and pop-punk bands, but I think Green Day is an easy choice for the HoF.
Part of the case for SRV will likely be that he kept the blues relevant at a time (the 80s) when the genre was not otherwise popular. He was huge influence on guitarists even if he wasn’t much of a pioneer.
It should take either success or influence or a combination of both to reach the HoF. The Velvet Underground had no commercial success during their existence but huge influence on musicians at that time and ever since…while ABBA and Mellencamp likely leaned more on commercial success than influence in order to be HoF worthy. I don’t like to listen to many of the HoF artists but feel that most should be there.
I have a deep, abiding respect for SRV and listen to his stuff reasonably regularly. but your uncle is spot on about Jeff Beck vs. SRV - Beck is on a whole 'nother level.
No, that’s not possible.
I don’t think that one can really call Madonna a rocker, can one?