Uh… is this supposed to be a joke? I mean, I know the movie is really being made, but some of these self-aware lines in the trailer almost make it seem like a parody of itself.
And did Talia Shire have the good sense to stay away?
sigh I’ll probably end up seeing it anyway, but this trailer just doesn’t bode well for what could have been a great franchise (you know, if they had stopped at like, Part 2).
That was pretty sad. Here is the IMDB link for the full cast.
A computer simulation!
Holy shit. Im so into this movie now.
Isn’t the quote from the 1960’s?
I’ve found all of the Rocky movies totally entertaining, even the horrible ones, so I’m already sold.
I would now like to announce my public apology to those trying to create unique and artistic movies in Hollywood, but are unable to get funding because projects like this one keep getting the greenlight
Oh my God… I’m not sure who I feel sorrier for having to take this paycheck- Antonio Tarver or Sly Stallone.
Talia Shire must be blowing her agent in gratitude that her character is dead in this one.
Even a few years ago, Sly could still diet/drug/cut himself into pretty good shape- see him in that bomb movie with James Woods and that slut from Basic Instinct. But now? No way I would ever pay a dime to see this mess.
It actually looks pretty good. Given all the stupid movies they’re making with alarming regularity anymore (anything with any SNL alum in it, for instance, anything from M. Night Whateverhisnameis, and anything even remotely associated with Whedon), this could scarcely be worse than those, and it looks like it will actually be better.
Maybe Sly has done a good job once again and written a descent film? It does say he wrote it on IMDB. My dad, The Surb says hes not as dumb as the characters he plays. I guess time will tell.
Oh man. I might need help. I kind of want to see it. Oh man.
Umm, maybe it’ll get some “Snakes on a Plane” buzz?
Like:
Ohh man, this movie looks soo baad!!!
Yeahh, lets all see ittt!!!
( I mean, it isn’t as cool as Snakes on a Plane, but maybe)
I thought trailer actually looked pretty good. And there’s no way Stallone looks like a guy who’s almost 80.
No, I kid. Actually, he looks damned good for a guy his age. He might actually make me believe it could be done. After all, he’s only about 10 years older than Foreman was when he won the heavyweight title. If they make the Rocky character maybe 5 years younger than Stallone really is, it enters the realm of possibility.
It’s never “only 10 years” when it comes to athletes. 10 years is an eternity. Especially at that age.
Hey if Superman Returns can be made 20+ years after Superman 2 and they say only 5 years have passed… They can fudge it with Rocky,
The Specialist was 12 years ago.
I think it’s safe to say that nobody trying to create unique and artistic movies is interested in making one with Sly. I think it’s safe to say he’s the driving force behind this, likely because nobody wants him for much of anything else.
And given the trailer, who can blame them? It looks horrible.
I’m reminded of an episode of Family Guy:
Adrian: You can’t fight a match on Mars, Rocky, there’s no air!
Rocky: That means there’s no air for the other guy, either. I gotta do what I gotta do!
The great irony is that the original Rocky was exactly the kind of movie you describe. It was the singular artistic vision of Stallone, who had difficulty financing it and resisted lots of studio pressure to cast a well-known actor.
Difficult to believe after Ivan Drago et al but it won three Oscars.
Rocky movies. . .
The first one is no great movie, but it’s at least sincere. I always felt it probably got disproportionate props because it was a low-budget, indie film in an era when the blockbusters were really getting rolling.
The second one occupies some weird sort of middle ground.
But 3rd through 5th are almost send-ups of the first ones, but are still entertaining. He looks like he’s still trying to shoehorn in the sentimentality of the first one while also making them over-the-top. I mean. . .he had the whole country of Russia cheering for him in IV. The training sequence in Siberia is great.
Clubber Lang: “dead meat” “go for it”. That shit is classic.
So, I can this one being a lot of fun to watch – not painful anyway. He’s not trying to portray himself as a young gun or anything. And Antonio Tarver (Mason Dixon in the movie) is a charismatic, entertaining dude.
I’m not going to come in here and talk about ROCKY like I’d talk about Citizen Kane or something, but as far as Rocky movies go, this sixth one looks like it makes as much sense as any of the others. They’re definitely movies that you just need to let yourself go with. . .get sucked into.
The potentially interesting thing here — insofar as there may actually be something interesting about this movie — is what appears to be, in Stallone’s performance, a strong emphasis on the whole punch-drunk brain-damaged quality Rocky has acquired after too many years in the ring. This has been present in previous movies, but never foregrounded. It could potentially be worthwhile if Rocky’s heroism is de-emphasized and his impaired judgement plays a larger role in his decision-making. If we accept the ludicrous computer simulation maguffin (snicker), it would lead to a lot of unscrupulous people surrounding Balboa and pushing him into another fight; he’d probably agree because he doesn’t know what else to do. These movies have not, up to now, tried to explore the gray areas of boxing; they glance into the shadows and then go for the shallow triumph.
Personally, if I were making this movie, I’d go a different direction with it. I’d establish a big supporting cast around Rocky, and have him as an apparently passive protagonist. In reality, he wouldn’t be the protagonist at all; structurally one of the other people would be the dramatic driver, but established subtly. This character, and the others, would argue around Rocky about his health and his career, while Rocky himself sits there in befuddlement, unable to follow events, almost a spectator in his own life.
So then the fight happens at the end of act two… and Rocky dies. Killed in the ring. Day-ud.
Act three is the fallout, led by the character who has been established for this purpose. The drama of trying to figure out what happened, whose idea this was, placing blame, mourning the hero, pursuing justice, learning how this horrible event came to be, only to have satisfaction snatched away when the powerful money men slither out through the cracks in the investigation.
I don’t know. I think it has potential. But it’d require someone with a big set of balls to depart from the formula to such a degree, and I don’t see Stallone as that guy any more.
Previous movies or movie? I know it was part of the story in Rocky V, but I can’t recall it being mentioned in the previous films. (Not a quibble, mind you; I just don’t remember.)
There was a minor subplot in, I think, the second movie, about how he wasn’t smart enough to remember his lines for a credit-card commercial or something, with the suggestion that his boxing wasn’t helping. They didn’t make a huge deal out of it; they just touched on it every now and then in subsequent movies rather than picking it up as a serious thread the way I’m proposing.
Also, how can you NOT get pumped up to see a fight when that music is playing? I might go and run a couple laps and start throwing some hurtin bombs.