Who is this guy [RealAudio stream], and what has he done with the real Roger Waters?
OK, I know it still really isn’t likely, but would anyone have predicted the Live 8 reunion back in May or whatever? Ah, the prospect of one more (good!) Pink Floyd album …
The Devil is strapping on his ice skates right about now.
I’m a little worried…what if they do get back together for one more album and it doesn’t meet expectations? I’d rather have them rest on their laurels than cobble together some piece of crap.
Pfah. Both Momentary Lapse Of Reason and Division Bell were great albums. I’d be interested in Rogers working with Pink Floyd, but I have no interest in Mason, Wright and Gilmour being the Roger Waters Back-Up Band.
Well, in a recent interview, Gilmour said something like “…been there, done that–absolutely not.” when asked about a PF reunion. I think his head still hurts from banging it up against Waters’ Wall, so to speak. But, looking back on the denials issued by their managment before Live8, it’s obvious that anything’s possible.
What I wonder, is–if they DO make another album, what kind of music will it be, and demographic will it sell to? A CD of “classic”-style Floyd would certainly appeal to those of us who listened to them back in their heyday. But I don’t know if the IPOD-generation goes for the long-form, album-oriented work that has been Pink Floyd’s stock in trade.
And, while we’re on the subject, I have to mention a line from a South Park episode I saw last night (“Cat Orgy”): At one point, Cartman says:
“Ha Ha…charade you are.”
I got an extra chuckle out of that!
Animals was the last of the old-school long-form Floyd albums. The Wall, Final Cut, and Waters’ solo albums have all consisted of more-or-less normal-length pop songs, so I imagine a new Floyd album would be in that mold.
That’s disregarding the fact that a) many Floyd fans are of the iPod generation (hell, I was 2 when Dark Side came out), and b) a new Pink Floyd album with Roger Waters would sell so many freakin’ copies it wouldn’t matter if the kids bought it.
The difficult questions to resolve would be, assuming Waters brought a project to the other three as he suggested, how would Dave and Rick be allowed to contribute? Certainly they would insist on doing so. And who would produce? Someone would need to act as referee between Waters and Gilmour.
The only way I think it could come off is if Waters offered the band a project, and Mason and Wright pressured Gilmour into signing on. I’m sure Gilmour is serious when he says he’s moved on, but loyalty to his bandmates might be a factor. Can you tell I want this to happen?
Even after Live8 this is about as likely as a Beatles reunion.
Like Nonsuch says there hasn’t been a classic Floyd album since 1977 (not much of the Wall sounds like Floyd to me, and the bits that do are guitar solos) I don’t see them going back to the old Meddle -> Animals style leisurely atmospheric noodling that we know and love.
What was Momentary Lapse of Reason then? It was very much the follow-up to Animals rather than the Roger Water’s Self Indulgent (but still excellent in its own way) Final Cut.
Wasn’t Water’s description a clever forgery? Actually I’ve never heard it I’ll grit my teeth and see if my library has the CD at the weekend. I find solo Waters, including the Final Cut, shrill and a bit monotonous. Solo Gilmour and Wright sometimes listenable but very lightweight.
::Wanders off to research Momentary Lapse of Reason::
Momentary Laspe was actually excellent from the first few notes. It was classic Floyd. I have one Gilmour CD that was a very Bluesy piece, I like it quite a bit and it is nothing like Floyd. (I really like the Blues, Gilmour is often underrated as a guitarist)
I don’t agree with this at all. MLoR had a couple nice moments, but IMHO really shouldn’t be mentioned along side Floyd’s best work. It seemed to me that Gilmour made a solo record which he tried to make sound like Pink Floyd.
I think there are moments that are Floyd-worthy. “Learning to Fly” deserves to stand alongside Pink Floyd’s better work, even if it’s something Waters would never have written. I agree that overall the album is lightweight, however. And don’t even get me started on the Division Bell.
I just read Nick Mason’s book Inside Out. The lawsuits and ugly feelings from Roger the perfectionist make it hard to believe they could make an album together. Personally they are on cordial terms and have had dinner and such together. I can see how they could do a one off show like Live8, but a year in the studio would end very very badly.
I’d love a new album by the guys, but can’t see it happening as a quality end product. They might start well, begin fighting and record their tracks at different times and places and it will be a cobbled together piece of shit at the end.
An aside; to say that MLoR is a Gilmore solo album is a slap to Mason.
IIRC, the first material that Gilmour made for the album was rejected by the studio as being not enough like Pink Floyd, so he “Floyded it up” for them. Waters heard about this, and he used it somehow in the legal wranglings than ensued.
Sorry, no cite, I just read it somewhere back when the lawsuits were flying. Might have been Rolling Stone.
This is why I haven’t listened to it. I probably would’ve bought it as a Gilmour solo album, I just bristled that it was labelled as a Floyd album without Waters and largely not played by the band.
One thing that was so impressive at live 8 was that they were totally self sufficient (just one support guitar, sax and girly vocals) unlike The Who*****, who went on with about twenty five other musicians.
***** Admittedly the Floyd have less trouble assembling the original****** lineup.
****** I know that should be Syd’s band but you know what I mean.
I shudder at the prospect of them getting back together for another album. It’s sad when musicians forget that you can’t go home – not to the home that was, which is likely what they’d be trying to do. They did some great work, but trying to revisit it would be a huge mistake.