Even before reading the OP’s initial thread content, I saw two questions in the title.
Rules for Street Fights (?)
If you’re talking about two untrained idiots taking a dispute (e.g. Which is better, Spaghetti with meatballs or without?) up to a physical fight level…
Rule #1: There are no rules
Rule #2: Refer to Rule #1
The Law, of course, will see things differently. There are laws against dueling+, brawling, battery, assault (which isn’t the same as battery), brandishing, mayhem, disturbing the peace, and all sorts of ways and reasons people can and do turn disputes into fights.
When to Stop?
Assuming melee combat has started*, many previous responses have noted that The Law generally calls for minimal use of force to stop the combat. I will simply add that this seems to weigh upon law enforcers as well, since there’s a formalized review process to decide whether or not the use of force was excessive. [Much news has been made in the aftermath of those review results being made public.] Minimal defensive force is basically just enough to get out of the bad situation and no more. Can you knock the assailant away or on the ground and run? Then do so and don’t look back. The legal clashes come in response to “then why did you stick around and…” or “if he only had a [hand-weapon] why didn’t you just out-run him?”
The rest of this thread is not a whole lot different from the many dozens of previous threads [which usually come up in IMHO – and I see this one has been moved there] that are basically “What if…” speculation exercises.
A neighbor I knew long ago related to me the words of San Diego Sheriff John Duffy: Mental Masturbation
It’s an interesting and exciting exercise, but it serves no purpose except as a distraction.
Every few weeks or so my karate instructor would break from the normal lessons and show us defenses against a knife or baton or other martial arts weapon. At the end of the session a student (not always the same one) would invariably say, “That was fun! But what if the guy has a gun?”
My instructor would respond, "Good point. And what if he has a grenade – or a bomb – or a tank – or a K’tinga class battle-cruiser?
My point, my instructor’s point, my neighbor’s point, and the former Sheriff’s point is that you can do what you can with the training you have (or lack) and it will always take you only so far. After that, worrying about “What if the situation is beyond my abilities and training?” is a waste of time.
I’m not suggesting you or your concerns are a waste of our brainstorming and advisory capacities (we are blessed with a tremendous capacity for brainstorming and offering advice). I’m saying you’ll find a lot of suggestions in the responses that run the spectrum of feasible to ridiculous but you, and only you, know your abilities, strengths, weaknesses, shortcomings, et cetera and only you will be able to change or maintain the details of your life and behaviors to meet or avoid the threat you perceive.
–G!
*And, if it hasn’t started, then avoid letting it start. Regardless of who is morally/socially/politically/mathematically/whatever right, the law enforcement agents and system are harsh even when they support the winner (and it just plain sucks to be the loser).
+I saw an article in 1991 about two men in San Francisco who were convicted of violating that law. It had been passed in the mid-1800’s, partly to show that California was civilized enough to become part of the Union and partly in response to the crazy behaviors among the influx of mavericks flooding into Gold Country. The law has apparently never been repealed, just mostly-forgotten.