Well, here in the Midwest microbursts are a known cause of severe damage in a small area . . .
The Russians say it lost stability. I suppose she might have turned turtle.
that is huge …
from an “emotional POV” losing a ship is so much more difficult to swallow as to towing in a beat up boat to patch it up …
huge win for Ukr. here
Confirming the story from another angle
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This is a pretty big loss, practically and prestige-wise.
It was the largest and most capable Russian vessel operating in that theater, as well as the flagship. I doubt the frigates and patrol boats remaining in that flotilla have proper flag facilities and command and control capabilities to oversee operations.
Also, the Russians just lost one of their three heavy guided missile cruisers. In comparison, the US Navy has 22 active Ticonderoga class guided missile cruisers.
The only other Slava class ship that even exists, other than the two active in other seas, is the Ukraina, and it technically belongs to the Ukrainians. But it’s a moldering incomplete hulk in the Mykolayiv shipyard.
When was the last time a ship bigger than this was sunk in a war?
Yamato, 7 April 1945?
Looks like the sinking via submarine torpedo of the Argentinian ARA General Belgrano in 1982 during the Falklands War.
General Belgrano was about the same size class as Moskva, maybe a little heavier all-up.
Moskva is bigger than the Belgrano.
Just as an aside: The above mention of Yamato triggered a memory and trivia question - “What was the last Japanese ship sunk by a US submarine?”
Interesting fact: The Belgrano used to be the USS Phoenix and is a survivor of the attack on Pearl Harbor.
See Post #4510.
The Belgrano and Moskva are similar in displacement and length, although the former had a larger crew.
By such a small margin that it’d depend on what they were carrying.
“As big as” is not “bigger.”
For a theater that small, wouldn’t / couldn’t those facilities be located ashore? And it’s not like they are engaging another navy on the open sea; the Black Sea Fleet is essentially a floating artillery battery.
That’s the answer you get unless you want to fish around World War II warship casualty lists for heavy cruiser, battleship, or fleet carrier losses.
WWII then - that’s good enough. Sorry for the hijack.
Apparently the USS Card was a similar size. It was bombed while in port in 1964, sunk, then was pumped out, refloated, and returned to service. Wiki lists it as having a smaller displacement when empty, but a higher displacement when fully loaded.
General Belgrano in the Falklands war. Also the Atlantic Conveyor same war. GB was former USS Phoenix 12,200 tons.
Atlantic Conveyor 14,950 roll-on roll-off ship.
I would love to see Biden publicly announce in a speech, “Putin doesn’t have the GUTS to push the nuclear button, his tiny fingers twitch with rage and helplessness, hovering right above the big red button, but not having the balls to actually push it…coward, coward…6,000 nukes but too wimp to launch a single one”…
…(As you can see, I probably would not make a good president.)
Don’t forget to mention how short he is.