Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1)

That’s probably not a line we want to cross, not unless it’s in retaliation for them attacking us first. Besides, private groups are already doing this and have been. We can just sit back and watch the fun, as it’s not us doing it.

I do think we should be looking to augment our retaliation for state-sponsored cyber attacks, especially if they can be proved, though, honestly, we don’t know that isn’t or hasn’t happened. The best cyber attacks are ones that the people being attacked never know happened…or, for their own reasons, want to keep the fact they got hacked very, very quiet.

It looks like the Hague is trying to get involved.

From CNN’s streaming link.

International Criminal Court opens investigation into Russian invasion of Ukraine

Looking for a link

ETA

ICC prosecutor to open probe into war crimes in Ukraine | AP News

Ukraine has filed war crimes charges against them with the Hague Court.

I thought of that but after all, we did not retaliate (that we know of) their alleged interference in two elections, it would restrain them from going at them with the gloves off.

In any event it’s all in the shadows and successful operations are the ones we never hear of.

A friend of mine is Russian, now a naturalized American. In her view, Putin supporters are like Trump supporters: in their media bubbles, filled with maximum propaganda and minimum facts. The hard-core have turned off their brains and do whatever the leader says. There are also apparently many Russians completely fed up with Putin, but not willing to risk themselves or their families by saying so in any identifiable way.

It gives me hope that Russia is not totally lost and fear of how close America is to becoming lost.

BP and Shell have announced they are severing their ties with Russian oil companies.

That they (as well as China, Iran, and a few others) interfered is pretty much a sure thing. But I don’t think there is any evidence, that I’ve seen anyway, that they hacked the election through cyber means. Instead, they used fake news and social engineering, which is more of a gray area. And, as you said, we don’t know if we did in fact go after them on this front. I wouldn’t be surprised if we have launched our own cyber-attacks from time to time, justified by stuff like the election or not.

Read the fine print. It’s actually Tylor Svift.

I guess Macron met with Putin earlier and Putin told Macron that he’s willing to negotiate…as long as Russia has full sovereignty over Ukraine, Ukraine is demilitarized and, well, Putin really, really liked that shirt Macron was wearing so…

I think the French president is really making progress in these negotiations. Putin is not demanding Eastern Europe or the Baltic states, at least not in this session, so…progress!

If I drank in bars, I’d want to drink in the bars that are boycotting Russian Vodka.

Many small things can often add up to a big thing.

Macron’s efforts are probably futile (and I suspect he knows this) but I’m glad he’s not giving up on them.

I suspect he does too, and I’m not taking anything away from him trying, but Putin is making demands that, simply, are not possible unless Russia wins big time on the battlefield…in which case, they are moot anyway.

The whole state of Ohio is refusing purchases & sales of Russian-made vodka

Damn! I hope this all cleared up by Christmas so we don’t all have to boycott The Nutcracker.

17 mile long column of armor is now advancing on Kyiv.

“contains hundreds of armoured vehicles, tanks, towed artillery and logistics support vehicles”

I hope the defenders have a lot of anti-tank missiles available.
They probably need to start take out their own bridges.

Russia has increased shelling of cities.

Russia has now committed 75% of their massed forces.


If they drive into a confined area, the Ukrainians can disable the lead vehicles and the trailing vehicles. It would be nice if they could do that with drones. With the middle vehicles immobile, they can peck at them with whatever weapons they can muster.

SOP in such situations it to let the pointy end of the spear pass by then hack at the shaft.

USA sending 12 Russian Diplomats home for conducting espionage.

Thus far Poland has taken in the most refugees. Over 280,000. A total of at least 520,000 have fled to neighboring countries.

Would be sweet if a B-2 came by at night time and dropped a few dozen CBU-97s…

They were just delivering and accidentally dropped the load. Whooops! :smile: