If that’s the Russian idea of a wave, this war is already over. May all future attacks be of this type.
that aspect seems news worthy:
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(it seems the P-boss is already feeling the russian Homer Simpson breathing down his neck)
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I suppose that would depend on whether you’re already or about to be under fire. What’s most perplexing is that they don’t seem to understand the importance of following in the tracks of the vehicle ahead and backtracking.
I also wonder if they thought they were under artillery fire with the first hit. Or maybe they were traveling too close together to stop without veering off from the path of the vehicle ahead. In which case the real villain is following too closely in a column.
I’m sure that’s a breach of the Ukrainian Traffic Safety Act. They should expect a summons any time now.
It’s also something we were trained to concern ourselves with when driving in convoys in Iraq. Spacing between vehicles, not just for stopping, but for… other reasons.
Should we expect him to fall out a window and onto a sledgehammer sometime soon?
I want him condemned to an eternity of rakes.
I believe in WWII the Russians would march soldiers who had committed crimes through a mine field. Saves time and gets rid of the undesirables.
The camouflage scheme on this NAFO-donated fleet of vehicles is pretty cool:
In one of the linked videos, it appears that when the vehicle explodes, the walking escort scatters and flattens themselves under nearby tree cover. That’s consistent with a belief that they’re being shelled.
In fact, it’s possible that the video does in reality show an artillery attack, rather than vehicles hitting mines. One would think an experienced foot soldier would quickly learn to recognize the sound of a falling shell just before the explosion, and thereby discern the nature of the attack. No shell sound + exploding vehicle = mine, and no need to scatter. And yet they do. Are they just inexperienced or foolish? Perhaps.
There would be propaganda value in circulating a video of an artillery attack but changing its descriptive context, thus broadcasting the message to Russian infantry, “every dirt road and every open field is a potential death trap,” in excess of the truth.
Of course, it could also be true that Russian training says, “if you hit a mine, the sound could attract attention and give away your presence, so scatter and cover just in case artillery fire follows.” In which case the video is completely true and the behavior is simply a trained response.
All we can really say for certain is (a) we’re not there and (b) any conclusions we draw from highly imperfect evidence will be necessarily almost entirely speculative.
I’m skeptical that artillery is that accurate. 100% clean hits, zero misses? That doesn’t sound like artillery to me.
Did…did they repurpose the Doge meme?
Yeah I would think it would be back up the way you came in.
And I wonder if they have mine detection equipment. I sort of doubt it. I seem to recall that new mines are very hard to detect.
That’s my thought as well, plus the first of the 100% accurate hits is on the lead vehicle in the column (which only makes sense as a matter of probability otherwise if they’re under direct fire). It’s also worth considering whether the mounted infantry can hear anything except perhaps for the explosions while riding in or on one of those things. I have no idea how loud they are. Something tells me the Russian military isn’t going to be OSHA-compliant or rigorously adhere to some sort of hearing conservation program on its combat vehicles.
I’ve heard of mines that can be remotely turned on and off. So you turn the minefield off until the enemy is in the middle of the field and then turn it back on. So backing up on their own tracks may not be enough since their tracks may go over a mine that was off when they first crossed it but is now on. Any idea if such mines are used in Ukr?
That also seems consistent with being in or near an exploding vehicle in general. If the Honda I was near suddenly went boom or burst into flames, my reaction would probably be to get away and seek cover.
Ooooo. That’s pretty devious. That video was captured by a UKN drone I assume. I wonder if it has the ability to turn the mines on/off.
Yep, there’s a reason all the sergeants keep telling guys not to stand around in a clusterfuck. Maintaining separation makes everything better.
Yeah, this. We’ve seen artillery attacks against columns before, and they never hit that many vehicles that quickly.
And I’d say that this is what’s going on. Part of the reason you’d put a minefield is to pin the tanks in place, so it’s easier for the artillery to hit. Puts the tanks in an “out of the frying pan, into the fire” situation. Do you try to drive out of the minefield, and maybe hit another mine, or do you sit there knowing artillery may be on the way? As mentioned above, reversing back along your own tracks is probably your best bet, but it’s clear the drivers here don’t understand that, or they panicked.
Where did you hear this? I ask because it first, it doesn’t sound like a good idea to be able to do this since an enemy could disable your minefield and second, I couldn’t see it being dependable enough to trust after a long period of mines sitting in various weather conditions.
Still, maybe if you just did it to a couple of mines that you monitored at key points it might work.