Why should he?
…Freudian slip, maybe?
Why should he?
…Freudian slip, maybe?
And there we have it, standard denialist tactics. Ask for evidence even when it has already been provided. Once it is provided again, pretend that it doesn’t exist.
Because they incited and participated in an act of massive mob violence which shut down a political rally.
You’d have to provide evidence first.
Cite?
Or maybe not…
You showed a video of people blocking an ambulance. How can you tell that they’re Sanders supporters?
And why would BLM want to shut down a Trump rally, anyway? Donald Trump has a great relationship with the blacks.
All right. I watched both your videos.
The first one? That sucks. Blocking an ambulance, for almost any reason, is awful. Now, it’s possible that there’s some extenuating circumstance, but I can’t think of one. I condemn those two protesters (did I count right? two?) who blocked the ambulance, and I expect everyone else to join me in that condemnation.
The second one? What the fuck was that supposed to prove? There was ONE videod act of violence: a white guy in a baseball cap putting a black guy in a headlock, and when the black guy got free, he came after the white guy. Level heads on both sides held them back.
So is this what it all comes down to? Two protesters got in the way of an ambulance like a couple of giant assholes? Let’s condemn those two. If it’s one incident involving two people, let’s not pretend like it’s a pattern.
C’mon. They may not be Sanders supporters, but you think those two were there to support Trump? Despite what the man says, The Blacks haven’t been coming out in force for him.
rofl…you do realize that this sort of head in the sand denial of reality is very possibly going to end up causing Donald Fucking Trump to be our president, don’t you?
Oh get real. The videos of the riot and shutdown of the rally are all over the place, if you are going to insist with this much fervor on retaining your ignorance I am just going to have to let you keep it.
I’m not talking about the bright line of violence, although that is obviously another one. I’m talking about disrupting an event so that the speaker who booked the venue cannot speak without being shouted over. Even if it only prevents people in one part of the venue from hearing or seeing, that’s not OK.
BTW, I felt the same about the BLM protesters who disrupted Bernie Sanders’s speech. Not OK. Hold your own damn rally or protest outside.
Are you for real? Are you seriously equating the idea that black people shouldn’t be killed by police with the idea that white people should rule supreme over the United States and kill black people who disagree?
I mean, I can post lists of murders committed by Klan activities vs. by BLM activities if you need me to, but if you actually ask for those stats, I’m gonna be drawing some conclusions about your debating style.
Don’t draw foolish analogies. Keep your discussion in the real world, please.
Support for Donald Trump is predicated on head-in-the-sand denial of reality, yes, I’ll give you that.
And yet, the best you can come up with is a brief clip of two guys (who you can’t prove were Sanders supporters) standing in front of an ambulance for ten seconds, and a white guy assaulting a black guy, completely absent of any context as to when they happened and the affiliations of the people involved.
That’s fair enough. I’m pretty sure I agree that there’s a bright line there as well, although it gets confounded by financial issues (obviously someone with millions of dollars to hire an arena doesn’t actually have more right to a hearing than someone without that money, but it ends up working out that way).
Nevertheless, I agree: to the extent that you actually are preventing other people from getting out their message, you’re behaving poorly.
You have a point. Let’s just call them radical leftist scumbags blocking an ambulance.
How can you tell from the video that they’re “radical leftists”?
Cool.
I predict BTW that Drumpf is going to publicly suggest that his supporters do the same thing at Bernie Sanders rallies. Won’t that be fun. A real shit show. :smack:
Are you saying that the second video does not in fact have people chanting “Bernie”? What were they actually chanting that sounded exactly like “Bernie”?
There was an entire wall of activists behind those people.
There was a lot of violence. The video that I posted in the first page of this threadis nearly an hour long. I scanned through the different parts of it, only seeing about five or ten minutes, and there was a lot of violence just in that small sample. But the news of the violence isn’t being repeated non-stop on every news source like the anti-Trump propaganda, which leads to the narrative we have here in which a sucker punch from an elderly man is worse than Bernie supporters committing large scale mob violence to shut down the political speech of their opponents.
ROFL :smack::smack: Not a pattern…oh lawd. I don’t suppose you noticed the massive crowd forming walls to block traffic from two main streets. That’s a pattern if there ever was one. An actual, physical pattern, laid out on the streets and filmed from a helicopter for all the world to see.
And you know this how?
I doubt it. He will more likely point out how it does not happen as evidence that his supporters are infinitely more civilized than his detractors.
The BLM movement goes as far beyond the position you are ascribing to them as the KKK goes beyond the position that they are simply a civil rights group for white people. BLM is a a violent mob of arsonists who’s main tactics are to disrupt activities and speech that they disagree with.