I’m pretty sure someone faked claims of WMDs to get us into that war, but probably not Bush. The fact that no WMDs were found was a major embarassment. If it was all a ploy from the beginning, wouldn’t you expect the US to have cobbled together a few plausible fakes to “discover” somewhere out in the Iraqi desert? I think it was probably one of the US’ allies who gave us bad information, possibly deliberately, to get us to do the heavy lifting for them and get rid of Saddam.
That could be the case, but it could also be due to wanting it to be true so much that they ran with whatever unreliable data they had. I don’t really think there was an intentional lie anywhere down that path, just people believing what they wanted to be true when they should have had enough insight to question things.
If anyone wants to see the Sandy Hook craziness, there is a thread at the Skeptiko forum about it. The main characteristic of the regulars over there is that they don’t have a clue how to figure out what to accept and what to reject, or even hold off on. Here’s the thread:
http://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/sandy-hook-conspiracy.1437/
Whatever you do, *don’t *let them see where you came from. They might follow you back here. :eek:
The stories I heard about FFs stealing valuables were about them looting the shops on the lower WTC levels, prior to either tower collapsing. Sorry, I didn’t believe it then and don’t now; somebody would have seen something, because the story I saw the most involved stacks of clothing, mostly blue jeans. 
It all pretty much came from an account in one book. The author did not see anything and relies on unnamed sources. Rumor apparently.
It’s not like just Joe Schmo said it to me. It’s my parent. And they are usually up to date and give me valid info. I am having a rough time coming to terms with either them being duped or them giving me untrustworthy info.
As far as the Iraqi WMD thing, I pretty much got the impression that the Bush ordered the CIA to find evidence to back up the claim the Iraqis had them and dismissed any data that indicated the Iraqis did NOT have WMDs.
I’d have to say that bomb you posted in the beginning of this thread proves that they’re not up to date and they don’t give you valid info.
By the way, “My mom is my cite” lacks a certain panache. Not to mention that I really don’t believe your mom said a blame thing on the issue. I think you’re back pedalling.
As a rule, first responders are reluctant to allow the next of kin to contaminate crime scenes by viewing them before the CSI types have first crack. And they also prefer to not allow the next of kin to view the remains of their loved ones until after the ME people have a chance to clean them up and make them look more presentable. And if remains are determined to be “non-viewable” they really mean it; there’s no comfort for the next of kin to see their loved one in that condition.
Maybe your parent misunderstood something or is conspiracy minded, but what they told you was wrong. Sorry.
And posterity will record that part of that found evidence (that was false) came from torture, particularly the one that pointed at Iraq and al Qaida working together…
That one’s easy: HAARP. Israel had to push the switch because Americans were hung over from Christmas.
Note to JLynn: Joking answers like mine are only allowed in General Questions after the original question has been answered. I learned that one the hard way. And if you are new it’s best to follow it with one of the smilies to show you’re not serious.
Also, the best way to have made your first post would have been as a question, “I’ve heard that none of the parents were allowed to view their children’s bodies. Is there any truth in that?” Leave your mother unmentioned, even if she’s Michelle Obama herself. Fewer jokes at your expense that way.
Parents aren’t perfect either, and I say this as a parent. There is a happy medium between doubting everything and believing everything someone says. It’s ok to use your own critical thinking skills and ask yourself if something makes sense. Doesn’t mean you have to be rude to your parents, but it is ok to be skeptical when something doesn’t make logical sense. All it means is you look for some additional info that will either explain it or refute it.
Of course the parents of the Sandy Hook victims saw their children and were allowed to bury them. It makes no sense that they wouldn’t be. Clearly your mom must have heard it from someone she trusted and didn’t want to be rude to them (but they were wrong or lying), or she misunderstood.
At age 6 it’s a good cite when speaking to other 6 years olds. At 14 it lacks panache. At age 28, it’s just sad.
Perhaps but instead we have other posters flat out calling me a liar. And pretty much saying I’m too old to get info from or trust my parents. At this point online people have gotten to me so bad I’m in tears. Just drop it and have this discussion without me please.
That’s not what people are saying.
My mom learned that lesson when she was 7 and she and her friends were comparing the ages of their mothers. She asked grandma how old she was and grandma told her she was 100 and mom then reported that to her friends and got teased.
But the acorn doesn’t fall that far from the tree. My mother claimed to be 49 years old until my older brother’s 50th birthday. Then she said she was 59 years old. I handled it differently than Mom did. I’d tell friends that Mom was 59 and if they looked at me doubtfully, I’d just say “Look, my Mom says she’s 59 years old, so either she’s 59 years old or she’s lying. Are you calling my mother a liar?” :mad:
And they’d accept that Mom was 59 years old.
One person literally said they don’t believe my mother said it at all and that I am back peddling and another said having gotten info from my mother at 28 is “just sad”
JLynn, those statements were perhaps overly harsh, or perhaps you took them as such. It would be better to say using your mother as the sole source for an extreme idea which deserves further investigation is ill-advised.
I’m just having a really bad day and already stated that. I really don’t need it repeated I’ve already apologized and tried to move on.
The last one wasn’t that you got the info from your mom, but that you used your mom as the explanation of why it’s credible. You seem to think that ever doubting your mom is somehow wrong.
It’s really not.
Also, you gotta realize that this is GQ. It’s a forum for factual answers backed by evidence. Other forums are looser as to what’s expected.
Sorry you’re having a bad day.